Brains over brawn eery time.
If we're talking pre 52 Terrific has enough knowledge on Nth metal after the Rann Thanagar war to be able to use it's properties against Carter.
Post 52 either Cyborg of Terrific BFR opposition for the win.
Terrific's T-Spheres have taken down captain Nazi who is Captain marvel level. He most certainly can take down either of these two.
Both of them still have ears. Aquaman has enhanced hearing and Hawkman's senses are increased by Nth metal. Cyborg's white sound blaster (even of the original Cyborg from pre COIE TT's who struggled to lift ten ton) would reek havok on these two and have them reeling.
They can win just as easily in a straight up encounter with their gear, both have defeated more powerful beings at their lowest levels (lowest versions).
Show me nu 52 Aquaman "throwing the ocean at anyone". Pre 52 he once caused a wave on a naval base using TP ( that he hasn't really shown post FP) to get whales to do so or at a yacht with the water hand. Both feats aren't pertinent. Pre 52 Terrific put down Capt Nazi who is stronger, more durable, faster etc than Arthur yet Arthur is going to stomp him plus a guy who has taken down mammoth ( physically equal to current AQ in almost every way) a few dozen times. All those feats were with earlier less powerful versions of team one. Frankly Hawkman is more of a threat with the versatility of Nth metal. Considering the healing factor it gives allowed him to take a hiding from WWIII BA for 7 pages and still walk away ( bleeding) and be healed next issue) plus his weapons his with a lot more power than the strength of those stronger here. The fact that his armor warps shape to his will means he can go full. Key armor two.
The same Hawkman who could fight BA when blood lusted for 7 pages and keep bringing it. Even after BA crushed a wall on him threw him hundreds of feet down to the ground straight through the engine block of a car just so HM could get straight back up and fly off for help.
Both versions of Cyborg and Terrific are vastly less powerful than current versions and yet you think AM is going to solo two guys who individually in weaker iterations took out guys vastly more powerful than him??
Just not happening. either put up some evidence to support a case or let go.
Your allowed to use TP which "current AM hasn't shown" but by showing a lower version of HM matching AM is not?? Seems a little one sided.
Current HM is vastly upgraded on pre FP. For one thing his armor can mould to his will making it full body armor. The metal still has all the previous properties of enhancing strength, granting a near Wolverine level Healing factor ( in fact since post FP he's actually been healed from a critical wound in seconds a better HF than before) plus energy applications and enhanced senses. The fact that he carries Nth metal weapons only makes this even greater as they strike with greater force than that used with them.
So too are Cyborg and Terrific. AM on the other hand isn't (though everyone likes to think he is). His best post FP strength feat doesn't match (let alone exceed) his Sub Diego feat or the pre Crisis feat of holding up a 12 story building in New Venus.
The Cyborg who performed that KO of Mamoth ( and Classic mamoth is more than capable of that ship feat) was only a 15 tonner. He was able to do it because his white sound blaster had mammoth reeling and in pain for several minutes prior. Certainly something he can reproduce here now that he has vastly greater strength. He did the same thing to several characters of that level when at that level many times. Holt has also taken on guys MUCH more physically dominant than current AM on multiple occasions with equal success. It's not PIS when you can produce dozens and dozens of feats on that level ( and they are from weaker versions with less to bring to the party)
Still waiting for a feat of him "throwing an ocean" or "trowing Atlantis" ?? At least I'm sing feats to justify not just fanboyism without any back up.
Ship weighs a shit ton more than Hawkman can lift. And the trowing Atlantis and Ocean thing was a joke so calm down. He has picked up Atlantis before though.
New52 Aquaman has shown TP lol.
I don't even like aqauman that much and your calling me a fanboy? lol.
Show Hawkman currently lifting something of that size.
Also lololololololololololol at mammoth being stronger than Aquaman or even lifting something of that size.
Absolutely correct HM is no where near as strong as AM but he does have weapons made or laced with nth metal. A pure Nth metal weapon like the claw of Horus strikes with the force of a planet http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...sdur2_super.jpg
When has AM ever done that to Superman??
AM has not lifted "Atlantis" he lifted a suburb of Sub Diego. If your quint to quote feats at least get them right.
Mammoth had greater strength than Donna Troy who is above AM.
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