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Who are D.C.s Illuminati?

Okay, pretend the incursion storyline occurred in DCU. They observe Marvel's Illuminati as the champion team the Great Society was and know they must contend with them as well as try to solve the incursion. In a retroactive sense, who would the members be? Pick seven, give you reasons. The reasons for coming together are the same, to resolve planetary and cosmic level events in secret. Remember, the seven have to agree to come together in secret. The two characters that scream Illuminati to me are Batman and Mr. Terrific and one that would not work is Superman. Name the members.

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These three already meet in secret pre-boot; they had the league within a league.

So they would DEFINITELY, pre-boot, be part of any Illuminati.

As for the rest, they'd need a mage (Jason Blood); a scientist (Ray Palmer); possibly Lex if it's one of those get together for the greater good, plus MM.

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It has to be a team of 7 people, who are willing to really do what has to be done to take care of a crisis. Superman and Batman are out because of that immediately.

1. Doctor Fate: a magician, who gets the bigger picture.
2. Wonder Woman: a power house, who is willing to kill for the greater good.
3. Martian Manhunter: has seen and experienced slavery and killing.
4. Mr. Terrific: to add some diversity, trollolololo.
5. Aquaman: = Namor, but less cool.
6. Red Hood: argueably the most knowledgeable one on Batman for overall convenience.
7. Green Lantern (Hal Jordan): Walking space lexicon, probably slightly less morals than the other three Lanterns and most likely still the voice of reason within the team.

Why not Batman, who will most likely be the pick of most of the people here?

What would Batman do during a crisis? Send the villains to Arkham and take a nap afterwards? He isn't willing to kill and even his ways of taking out someone are rather underwhelming, because if we remember correctly... Tower of Babel was only so successful, because Ra's tweaked Batman's gadgets to a point, where they were even more deadly and effecient.

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What would Batman do during a crisis? Send the villains to Arkham and take a nap afterwards? He isn't willing to kill and even his ways of taking out someone are rather underwhelming, because if we remember correctly... Tower of Babel was only so successful, because Ra's tweaked Batman's gadgets to a point, where they were even more deadly and effecient.

Kill Darkseid.

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It has to be a team of 7 people, who are willing to really do what has to be done to take care of a crisis. Superman and Batman are out because of that immediately.

1. Doctor Fate: a magician, who gets the bigger picture.
2. Wonder Woman: a power house, who is willing to kill for the greater good.
3. Martian Manhunter: has seen and experienced slavery and killing.
4. Mr. Terrific: to add some diversity, trollolololo.
5. Aquaman: = Namor, but less cool.
6. Red Hood: argueably the most knowledgeable one on Batman for overall convenience.
7. Green Lantern (Hal Jordan): Walking space lexicon, probably slightly less morals than the other three Lanterns and most likely still the voice of reason within the team.

Why not Batman, who will most likely be the pick of most of the people here?

What would Batman do during a crisis? Send the villains to Arkham and take a nap afterwards? He isn't willing to kill and even his ways of taking out someone are rather underwhelming, because if we remember correctly... Tower of Babel was only so successful, because Ra's tweaked Batman's gadgets to a point, where they were even more deadly and effecient.

LMAO about Batman. Hadn't thought of that. He might get the Captain America treatment. laughing out loud

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Superman
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Batman

These three already meet in secret pre-boot; they had the league within a league.

So they would DEFINITELY, pre-boot, be part of any Illuminati.

As for the rest, they'd need a mage (Jason Blood); a scientist (Ray Palmer); possibly Lex if it's one of those get together for the greater good, plus MM.

Not unless they ALL were not in it.

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Originally posted by Enzeru
It has to be a team of 7 people, who are willing to really do what has to be done to take care of a crisis. Superman and Batman are out because of that immediately.

1. Doctor Fate: a magician, who gets the bigger picture.
2. Wonder Woman: a power house, who is willing to kill for the greater good.
3. Martian Manhunter: has seen and experienced slavery and killing.
4. Mr. Terrific: to add some diversity, trollolololo.
5. Aquaman: = Namor, but less cool.
6. Red Hood: argueably the most knowledgeable one on Batman for overall convenience.
7. Green Lantern (Hal Jordan): Walking space lexicon, probably slightly less morals than the other three Lanterns and most likely still the voice of reason within the team.

Why not Batman, who will most likely be the pick of most of the people here?

What would Batman do during a crisis? Send the villains to Arkham and take a nap afterwards? He isn't willing to kill and even his ways of taking out someone are rather underwhelming, because if we remember correctly... Tower of Babel was only so successful, because Ra's tweaked Batman's gadgets to a point, where they were even more deadly and effecient.

Good List

Mine would be.
1. WonderWoman, representing the realm of Gods
2. Aquaman, representing the biggest part of earth
3. Constantine, representing the realms of Magic
4. Lex Luthor, representing the science part of humanity (redeemed himself in FE)
5. Metron, representing the realm of the New Gods
6. Martian Manhunter, representing all extraterrestrial forces (psi)
7. Hal Jordan, representing the Guardians

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5. Aquaman: = Namor, but less cool.

ban him PR, ban him!! laughing out loud

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Good List

Mine would be.
1. WonderWoman, representing the realm of Gods
2. Aquaman, representing the biggest part of earth
3. Constantine, representing the realms of Magic
4. Lex Luthor, representing the science part of humanity (redeemed himself in FE)
5. Metron, representing the realm of the New Gods
6. Martian Manhunter, representing all extraterrestrial forces (psi)
7. Hal Jordan, representing the Guardians

Good list, but can't see Superman not been there just because of who he is.

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GL John Stewart has already destroyed two planets and will make tough decisions for the greater good.

Amanda Waller has already done unethical things like send villains to a prison planet. She does things " by any means necessary."

Aquaman

Pandora already helped to merge three worlds into one and knows how to be discreet, plus has vast mystical knowledge.

Martian Manhunter

Cyborg can manipulate most tech and has access to mother boxes and Apokolips tech.

Black Adam is a Namor type personality wise. He has protected the Earth when it fits his needs.

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Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Good List

Mine would be.
1. WonderWoman, representing the realm of Gods
2. Aquaman, representing the biggest part of earth
3. Constantine, representing the realms of Magic
4. Lex Luthor, representing the science part of humanity (redeemed himself in FE)
5. Metron, representing the realm of the New Gods
6. Martian Manhunter, representing all extraterrestrial forces (psi)
7. Hal Jordan, representing the Guardians

Excellent list, however, Metron doesn't fit he's a little too high up the scale and he doesn't have the same ties to earth as the others. I was waiting for Constantine.

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Superman
WW
Batman

These three already meet in secret pre-boot; they had the league within a league.

So they would DEFINITELY, pre-boot, be part of any Illuminati.

As for the rest, they'd need a mage (Jason Blood); a scientist (Ray Palmer); possibly Lex if it's one of those get together for the greater good, plus MM.

excellent reasoning!

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ban him PR, ban him!!

Not just cooler, more of man.

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Originally posted by Supermutant
GL John Stewart has already destroyed two planets and will make tough decisions for the greater good.

Amanda Waller has already done unethical things like send villains to a prison planet. She does things " by any means necessary."

Aquaman

Pandora already helped to merge three worlds into one and knows how to be discreet, plus has vast mystical knowledge.

Martian Manhunter

Cyborg can manipulate most tech and has access to mother boxes and Apokolips tech.

Black Adam is a Namor type personality wise. He has protected the Earth when it fits his needs.

Folks, I think we have a winner. Incredible reasoning IMO.

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Re: Who are D.C.s Illuminati?

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Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Okay, pretend the incursion storyline occurred in DCU. They observe Marvel's Illuminati as the champion team the Great Society was and know they must contend with them as well as try to solve the incursion. In a retroactive sense, who would the members be? Pick seven, give you reasons. The reasons for coming together are the same, to resolve planetary and cosmic level events in secret. Remember, the seven have to agree to come together in secret. The two characters that scream Illuminati to me are Batman and Mr. Terrific and one that would not work is Superman. Name the members.

Actually, now that I think about it.....

DCnU:
Martian Manhunter
Apollo
Midnighter
Engineer
Jack Hawksmoor
Jenny Quantum
The Projectionist
Adam One.

Preboot:
Apollo
Midnighter
Swift
Jack Hawksmoor
Jenny Quantum/Sparks
The Doctor
The Engineer.

I shall call this version of the Illuminati, the Authority. Or Stormwatch. To deal with planetary/cosmic threats in secret. Made up of members who are willing to do what it takes to safeguard their Earth.

I'll give them a mobile fortress to work from, too.

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Constantine and Luthor would definitely be there, the rest are kind of debateable.

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1. Constantine
2. Wonder woman
3. Ray palmer
4. Amanda Waller
5. Phantom Stranger
6. GL stewart
7. Martian manhunter

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Actually, now that I think about it.....

DCnU:
Martian Manhunter
Apollo
Midnighter
Engineer
Jack Hawksmoor
Jenny Quantum
The Projectionist
Adam One.

Preboot:
Apollo
Midnighter
Swift
Jack Hawksmoor
Jenny Quantum/Sparks
The Doctor
The Engineer.

I shall call this version of the Illuminati, the Authority. Or Stormwatch. To deal with planetary/cosmic threats in secret. Made up of members who are willing to do what it takes to safeguard their Earth.

I'll give them a mobile fortress to work from, too.