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Frank and Bruce: Morality Issues
The world as we know it is corrupt. I just recently read a vews paper article with 7 guys attacking two guys with a machete. That's 7 on 2. Now Frank Castle and Bruce are herein the real world. The still have their comic book physique, they still evade the cops, but they are set loose on the "real world". Who is better suited to handle our problems with crime? The get the same jobber aura, the same backing, skills etc. Real world laws of physics dont apply to them. However they are in the real world. Who would you rather it be?
Batman. He has a larger area and range of influence. He might primarily do his business in Gotham, but he also gets involved regularly in international and interplanetary affairs. Frank, despite only being behind Apocalypse and Sinestro in my favorite characters list, pretty much only shoots people in the boroughs.
I was going to say Punisher for the permanent solution but then thought about it.
The world is corrupted but it's not corrupted the way it's shown in comics. I doubt you'll find many warehouses full of armed mobsters who are plotting to take over the city for Frank to bust in and plug them full of holes. Batman is better suited to solve real cases, find serial killers etc and those are the bigger problem than organized crime.
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Batman. Besides everything that has already been said in deference to him (which I agree with), there's also the impact on the general populace. Punisher's methods would basically label him as a domestic terrorist immediately. Batman has the potential to inspire.
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He retains everything and neither can get caught. They are essentially comic characters irl without rl applications. So bullet dodging, damage soak, law evasion remains the same
With Bruce retaining everything I think he wins here overall, he has access to some crazy gadgets. Not combined with his wealth which he could use to hire PMC's to carry out his plans and nobody would be the wiser.
Bruce could pull the strings behind the scenes and cause so much chaos.
Also, assuming he still has his business acumen, Bruce could become a rl multi billionaire in a relatively short span of time and then become President. He'd be like Batman and Frank Underwood rolled up into one.
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But he'd be perpetuating the cycle. I had this argument earlier on fb with a friend. I personally think Frank would solve more "problems" like repeat offenders and guys who seriously really just deserve to die. Bruce can beat em up, he can strike fear. But these guys will rebound they'd kill again. They'd rob again. Frank would end it. Judge, jury, executioner.
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Yea but that's the stip. Neither are impeded by the law. They both have free reign. Nor does age, injuries, hold them back. They are essentially comic characters pulled straight out of the page and in the real world.
This is actually why I'd choose Batman. Frank's methods would never make significant change. There's always going to be another body. Batman's methods (generally) are more compassionate. They speak more to the part of us that wants to do right than they do to the part of us that wants to punish wrong.
Neither character is blessed with any kind of objective high-ground that they can justify their actions with. Batman (generally) is the only one of the two that seems to realize this.
Batmans better for tackling organized crime, too. If only it was as simple as a shootout in some warehouse, with an easily identifiable kingpin at the top to beat down/assassinate to bring it all crashing down
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Maybe im a little bit more conservative with my views in relation to the law. The justice system is a revolving door. You can literally get away with murder od you have the right lawyer on your side. Batman can't prevent this. I dont even think in a real world scenario he'd even be able to inflict much damage.
I think that's really an oversimplification. In fact I correct myself that's not eve true.
EDIT: Actually what do you mean exactly? He only kills thugs or just people in NYC? Either one and it's still an oversimplification, not sure if I'd say it's untrue depending on what you mean.
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