Unless you're one of those who believes that Darskeid in H/P was an avatar and not DS himself we have already seen how this turned out haven't we?
__________________ Darwin's theory of evolution is the great white elephant of contemporary thought. It is large, completely useless, and the object of superstitious awe.-Dr. David Berlinski, Philosophy
Most people believe Evolution not because they themselves are dumb, but cause they trust the "experts" who are feeding them evolutionary fast food, and so they don't bother questioning whether or not it's true.
we've seen darkseid getting jobbed out and losing to dd in a comic where the plot called for him to lose, but other than that, we haven't seen darkseid actually fight doomsday in a fair setting.
You can't use the old "he lost because the story called for it" everytime a character you like loses though. I like DS much more than I do DD but if that, in fact, was DS and not an avatar then H/P Doomsday is clearly above him. I'm not convinced that was the real DS though.
__________________ Darwin's theory of evolution is the great white elephant of contemporary thought. It is large, completely useless, and the object of superstitious awe.-Dr. David Berlinski, Philosophy
Most people believe Evolution not because they themselves are dumb, but cause they trust the "experts" who are feeding them evolutionary fast food, and so they don't bother questioning whether or not it's true.
I'm wondering something. Why are people saying that PC Darkseid wins this? I thought that the New Gods escaped the events of the COIE? If so, is there some difference between PC Darkseid, and Pre 52 Darkseid?
Canonically, there shouldn't be any difference, but if you compare the showings of PC Darkseid and Darkseid post-crisis, it's quite clear that Darkseid was badly watered down.
Read the Great Darkness Saga. Darkseid in that series was mind-controlling an entire planet of Daxamites and sending them on a mission of destruction across the known universe (an insane feat not just in terms of TP but also of mental power, sending his mindslaves in millions of directions across vast distances), put a PC Daxamite in a coma with a single blast, and casually depowered enemies with a wave of his hand.
He defeated Mordru and then the Time-Trapper while "severely weakened." Both of them being arguably Skyfather level characters, that tells you the level PC Darkseid was at.
He would have crushed Doomsday--any version we've seen--with ease.
Oh yeah, and he turned a baby into Validus, a being with the strength of several PC Kryptonians.
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Last edited by Omega Vision on Dec 2nd, 2014 at 03:31 AM
Okay good answer. I had to ask, because everything that you said always confused the crap out of me. I mean they were either effected by the events of the COIE, or they weren't. Consider me not confused any longer. I'm wondering if they were all semi nerfed, or maybe it was only the most powerful of them LOL. DC and their continuity problems.
Also, PC Darkseid's Omega Effect (his most powerful weapon) never failed to work. If DS wanted to use it to erase someone then that being was gone regardless of who they were. Compare that to current DS's OE which is kind of a joke in comparison. I've lost count how many times it's failed to work.
__________________ Darwin's theory of evolution is the great white elephant of contemporary thought. It is large, completely useless, and the object of superstitious awe.-Dr. David Berlinski, Philosophy
Most people believe Evolution not because they themselves are dumb, but cause they trust the "experts" who are feeding them evolutionary fast food, and so they don't bother questioning whether or not it's true.
Doomsday fought darkseid in Doomsday year one too. Darksi lost an army of his men and had to retreat after a brief fight. It was such a loss darksi didn't tell anyone about that fight because he was ashamed of having to run like a b*tch.
Oh yeah, that's right. I forgot about that. It took place in the distant past I believe when DD wasn't nearly as powerful as H/P version. Perhaps not even as powerful as DoS DD.
__________________ Darwin's theory of evolution is the great white elephant of contemporary thought. It is large, completely useless, and the object of superstitious awe.-Dr. David Berlinski, Philosophy
Most people believe Evolution not because they themselves are dumb, but cause they trust the "experts" who are feeding them evolutionary fast food, and so they don't bother questioning whether or not it's true.
are you talking about that one panel tussle between them and when darkseid retreated because the planet was filling with radion (something that's toxic to new gods)? You consider darkseid retreating so that he won't die from a pointless struggle on a toxic planet to be darkseid losing a fight? Also, if word spread that something had opposed darkseid; it might make the hunger dogs and lowlies think that they could oppose darkseid openly and get away with it.
It's been a while since I read it but I'm pretty sure I remember that DS made one of his minions swear that they would never mention the encounter to anyone because he fled from DD and that minion said in his internal dialogue something like Darkseid being afraid. I have the comic too but I'll have to look for it and don't really feel like digging into my collection at this hour of the night. Maybe later on in the day after I get a good night's sleep I'll search for it.
__________________ Darwin's theory of evolution is the great white elephant of contemporary thought. It is large, completely useless, and the object of superstitious awe.-Dr. David Berlinski, Philosophy
Most people believe Evolution not because they themselves are dumb, but cause they trust the "experts" who are feeding them evolutionary fast food, and so they don't bother questioning whether or not it's true.
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