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Battle of the Assassins! Bullseye Vs David Cain
Feb 2nd, 2015 06:02 AM
deathslash
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Does David Cain have any real feats? I'll go with bullseye
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Feb 2nd, 2015 07:44 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by deathslash
Does David Cain have any real feats? I'll go with bullseye
Fighting Slade briefly, but Slade highly respects his skills.
Took down Deadshot.
Fought Cassandra, but also messed with her mind.
Fought Batman, lost, but he wasn't in his prime and wanted to die, IIRC. He also trained Bruce and Cassandra.
Feb 2nd, 2015 07:52 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Golgo13
Fighting Slade briefly, but Slade highly respects his skills.
Took down Deadshot.
Fought Cassandra, but also messed with her mind.
Fought Batman, lost, but he wasn't in his prime and wanted to die, IIRC. He also trained Bruce and Cassandra.
wasn't that fight back when Cain was in (or at least close to) his prime and wasn't it primarily off panel?
Wasn't Deadshot goading Cain into killing him?
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Feb 3rd, 2015 04:23 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by deathslash
wasn't that fight back when Cain was in (or at least close to) his prime and wasn't it primarily off panel?
Wasn't Deadshot goading Cain into killing him?
Yeah, some of his stuff happened off panel, but at least we know he survived Slade's encounter.
Here is a good post on Cain/Deadshot:
quote: These are some of his feats. He broke into the Batcave (a feat Nightwing states he couldn't have done), cuts through all of Bruce's security like a ghost, even the security on his computer, to mess with his computer, leaving no traces to how he frames Bruce for murder with evidence so compelling even his allies (the Bat family, including Oracle) start to doubt Bruce, simply because everything points to him having done it. Only a (plot-induced) stroke of luck unravels his plans, and even when they figure out someone must have broken into the Batcave it takes Oracle, Nightwing, and Tim's best efforts to even get an inkling of how he might have done it (with acrobatics so difficult Nightwing has problems replicating them, and technology along the lines of 'hard-light projectors' among other science-fiction gadgetry).
He shot three armed guards with broken arms, strapped to a hospital bed, and didn't miss. He nearly killed Deadshot without having eaten in two weeks and wanting to die himself. The fight even starts off with his hands cuffed behind his back. While under 24/7 surveillance in cameras (direct feed from his cell to the guards dedicated to watching him), and supposedly with no equipment (he's in Blackgate Prison), Cain breaks out of his cell with nobody the wiser, runs off to Gotham, delivers a present for Cass, then arrives back at Blackgate prison just as they figure out that he's gone, walking in the front gate as they open it up to go looking for him. He once set up a mock terrorist situation involving himself and a nuclear power plant on one end of Gotham with sufficiently perfect videos that it fools not only the army but Batman and Oracle (with all her superb electronics and top-notch skill) into believing he's over there while he carries out his business undisturbed on the other side of town.
I mean, this is the guy that escaped from the hospital and killed every (national) agent in his home after multiple broken bones, partially being restrained, and roughed up by Batman. Also note that he was more drunk than an Irish man but still managed to do all this and hurt Batman. Seriously, he's snuck up on his own daughter, while Batman had trouble doing so. He's not only a Deadshot-level sniper, he walks into places full of armed people, shoots them all, and kills them all, walking away happy.
Specifically to the Deadshot instance, so David Cain is in prison with a 10 million dollar bounty on his head. He has stopped eating, hasn't had anything in three days - he wants to die, because it's easier to die than to face his daughter. Deadshot comes to kill him as he's being transfered, while Batman intervenes. What follows are two comics of utter madness as Deadshot tries to kill Cain, Cain tries to die, and Batman tries to keep Cain alive. Cain, cuffed and starved, falls multiple stories, smashes through a bathroom wall headfirst (right through the porcelain tiles), gets caught in explosions (mostly out of them), gets beat up more, etc. Batman gets cut off from him, and Cain ends up face to eyepiece with Deadshot (who he once taught). Deadshot tosses Cain a gun. Cain refuses to pick it up. Deadshot shoots Cain in the shoulder. Cain still refuses. Deadshot then makes a really, really dumb mistake, reminding Cain he might have something worth living for. Exhausted, beaten, battered, cuffed, and shot, Cain still completely overwhelms him, shifting past his gunfire with a headbutt, crushing him in hand to hand, dodging his shots, then shooting both of Deadshot's arms and putting a bullet right next to his heart, later revealed to have been perfectly placed to lay Deadshot up for a long, long time but not kill him.
Feb 3rd, 2015 04:52 AM
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Cain with ease, this guy was one of Batmans trainers
Feb 3rd, 2015 08:00 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by relentless1
Cain with ease, this guy was one of Batmans trainers
do you ever get tired of wanking batman?
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Feb 3rd, 2015 02:43 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by relentless1
Cain with ease, this guy was one of Batmans trainers
What does training Batman have to do with anything?
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Feb 3rd, 2015 02:57 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Golgo13
Yeah, some of his stuff happened off panel, but at least we know he survived Slade's encounter.
Here is a good post on Cain/Deadshot:
That was a pretty epic read.
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