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Wonder Woman/Spider-man reaction time speed

Trying something more comparable.
Who has the better reaction time speed? WW with her ability to block everything from projectiles to energy weapons with her bracelets/bracers, or Spidey with his ability to dodge same with his agility and spider sense?
Not confined to DCnu WW, but overall showings high and low, from both characters over the years.

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WW reacts faster, but Spider-Man reacts before the threat happens.

So even though she is faster, he reacts first.


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Which be the better?


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scoobless gave the perfect answer

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And i asked the imperfect follow up in equally imperfect english. stick out tongue

Which be better?


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His is an aided reaction, hers is a conscious and deliberate act of dodging without the pre-warning. Hers is more impressive and better overall, the fact that she can dodge anything he can and more without the precognition is obviously better.


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His is an aided reaction, hers is a conscious and deliberate act of dodging without the pre-warning. Hers is more impressive and better overall, the fact that she can dodge anything he can and more without the precognition is obviously better.

We're not comparing her dodging ability to his, lets just clarify that in case this gets more input.
We're comparing her (WWs) ability to BLOCK projectiles, energy attacks etc. to HIS (Spidey's) ability to dodge the same type of attacks.


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The ability to block individual projectiles travelling at 'X' speed is a vastly more skillfull act. Elektra for example executing a 'Ping' 'Ting' Pang' against bullets with the tiny surface area of her sais is superior to any amount of dodging feats spider-man has in his library.

There are more factors in play when straight dodging. The aim of the person, the reaction speed of the person, are they even able to compensate on a physical reactionary level to the speed in which the dodger is moving and reacting? The guy shooting might be (and is usually) not on the level of the one hes shooting at in comics.

Choosing to stay in harms way and casually swat projectiles out of the air as they approach at the speed of sound or faster shows more skill and is a more impressive feat than jumping out of the way.

To clarify, the answer is Wonder Woman.


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And thats all i wanted to hear/read.
An opinion on what i actually hope to start a debate about. Thanks! thumb up


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WW is much faster.

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Because this is WW blocking, I'm giving this instance to her. But overall, IMO, dodging > blocking. With blocking, you're still being hit, and theoretically, at some point, you could be hit with something too powerful to block, and you're down. Dodging, OTOH, is the great equalizer. Could be a snowball, could be a thrown locomotive: if it misses you it misses you and no harm done.

On the side, this thread reminds me of the question I've posed: who's more agile? Superman or Spider-Man? Routinely, Spider-Man does all kinds of agile, acrobatic stuff. Superman? Rarely. Yet speed is a big part of agility, and Superman is way faster than Spider-Man. So, who's more agile?

[Regarding dodging vs blocking: Superman doesn't dodge much (generally, he doesn't have to); instead, his signature move is to take it square in the chest...which is great as long as it's something he can handle. Spider-Man OTOH, again...doesn't matter what you throw at him: if it misses it misses, no harm done.]

So, returning to topic: WW blocking > SpM dodging, specifically. But generally speaking: D > B.


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Like Scoob said, Spidey's body almost dodges on its own.

That said, in the same vein of Mindship's post, Wonder Woman flies and is so much faster than Spider-Man that she will be able to accomplish anything he can. She won't, however, do backflips and shit.


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. But generally speaking: D > B.


I gotta disagree there, theres blocking and theres deflecting with purpose.

Cap raising his shield to block an oncoming attack is less impressive than dodging. But someone like Elektra reflecting individual bullets with her sais which would be classed as blocking/deflecting is the vastly more skilful act than a dodge.


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Representations like that are not the norm. That's an extreme case, if he could do that at will to 8 different targets without aim dodging , he would never get hit.

The same way that scan of A sniper locked in on deadpool about 3 or 4 blocks away and in the next frame deadpool is behind the sniper, that's extreme and I wouldn't call that sort of quicksilver speed an accurate representation of deadpools actual speed.

impressive nonetheless.


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I gotta disagree there, theres blocking and theres deflecting with purpose.

Cap raising his shield to block an oncoming attack is less impressive than dodging. But someone like Elektra reflecting individual bullets with her sais which would be classed as blocking/deflecting is the vastly more skilful act than a dodge.
Agreed. Deflecting with purpose -- especially if you manage to send your enemy's projectiles back at them -- is extremely masterful...as long as it's something that can be blocked and deflected. Otherwise, dodging, imo, is still the superior way of simply avoiding being hurt. Elektra can block/deflect bullets, sure, but not a thrown car. Spider-Man can dodge both (and I'm pretty sure Elektra, at that point, would also opt to dodge).


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On the real though, WW has some of the best reflect fts in comics whereas Spiderman has some of the best agility fts in comics. It depends on what you are asking for.


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Representations like that are not the norm. That's an extreme case, if he could do that at will to 8 different targets without aim dodging , he would never get hit.


You know there's like 100 feats of Spidey like that, yeah?

Realistically, WW is the correct answer here. But don't act like that's an outlier. Pete has thousands of showings, so you can find hundreds worse than that and, yes, probably hundreds (and at least dozens) as good or better.


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