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RadZoa
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Wildcat vs Daredevil

Cage match

R1: Pre 52, JSA Wildcat
R2: Earth 2

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Wildcat.

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Matt takes him down.


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yeah matt wins. not easily, and i don't think he would sweep, but a majority. maybe 8/10


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I think the rules favor Wildcat.

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If Matt keeps it to hit and run tactics I give it to him.
If it stays face to face, I give it to Ted.


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Preboot Ted stomps in a cage match. I'm not familiar with E2 Wildcat.


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Matt's senses give him the edge that should allow him to dodge enough of Ted's blows to take the win.

Ted is good at mixing it up and using other fighters styles to confuse bamboozle but due to Matt's senses alowing him to know what moves matter that shouldn't work for him often enough to matter.

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Wildcat had a good fight against Batman in a cage match. He takes round 1, he thrives in fights like this.

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Daredevil stomps !


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Daredevil takes it. i think wildcat will pose his same fight as punisher. more brute force and basic striking while daredevil will be too much because of his agility and pressure point hits. he will take wildcat down eventually. dont forget that in a cage fight matt took out bruiser. if you dont know who bruiser is, he was fighting kaine and even kaine stated its hard to fight him because he is tough as hell.

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Wildcat had a good fight against Batman in a cage match. He takes round 1, he thrives in fights like this.


How can you call that a good fight??
In the Batman Wilcat mini Bruce clearly knew who he was fighting all along and was trying to reason with Ted. Ted didn't believe it was Batman because he was having too easy a time of it ( so Brice was holding back and Ted clealy though Bruce would clean his clock). The INSTANT Bruce gave up trying to reason he put Ted dow with one blow and broke the blindfold mask in the process.

Ted's not in Bruce's level (not even close?.

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How can you call that a good fight??
In the Batman Wilcat mini Bruce clearly knew who he was fighting all along and was trying to reason with Ted. Ted didn't believe it was Batman because he was having too easy a time of it ( so Brice was holding back and Ted clealy though Bruce would clean his clock). The INSTANT Bruce gave up trying to reason he put Ted dow with one blow and broke the blindfold mask in the process.

Ted's not in Bruce's level (not even close?.


You are mostly just plain wrong. Batman wasn't completely sure he was fighting Wildcat until page 5 of the fight when he said "your last combination clinched it for me...You're Wildcat." Ted definitely doesn't believe anyone would clean his clock, he's a former heavyweight champ who has single-handedly taken on the Injustice Society. Batman also didn't one-shot him. Look at the scans, we do know for certain that in the very next scan, after taking Bat's hit, "that was to open his eyes or skull," Wildcat is fully upright and functional w/out any ill effects.

I never said Ted was at the same level of Bruce. But in the ring, in a cage, or in a straight street type brawl, there are few streetlevelers tougher, and with more heart than Ted. Ted loves these types of matches and I would take him in a long good fight over DD strictly in a cage match h2h.

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By the way in a straight brawl fight, Wildcat is very much in Bruce's league. Enough so to get a double ko. And they had to fight pretty hard, Joker made sure of that.

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So getting punched square in the face with multiple ~1" metal spikes leaves only scratches?

Well done, DC.


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You are mostly just plain wrong. Batman wasn't completely sure he was fighting Wildcat until page 5 of the fight when he said "your last combination clinched it for me...You're Wildcat." Ted definitely doesn't believe anyone would clean his clock, he's a former heavyweight champ who has single-handedly taken on the Injustice Society. Batman also didn't one-shot him. Look at the scans, we do know for certain that in the very next scan, after taking Bat's hit, "that was to open his eyes or skull," Wildcat is fully upright and functional w/out any ill effects.

I never said Ted was at the same level of Bruce. But in the ring, in a cage, or in a straight street type brawl, there are few streetlevelers tougher, and with more heart than Ted. Ted loves these types of matches and I would take him in a long good fight over DD strictly in a cage match h2h.

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Ha ha so you say I'm wrong but post the scans to confirm what I said?
1. There were only 5 panels of "fight" before Bruce said that clinches it. I dont count full page panels as more than they are and the first page is two guys standing in a cage (no fighting).
2. Those panels amount to WC striking Bruce three times and completely missi g twice (as Bruce grts his measure)
3. Clinched means confirmed ergo ye had to susspect first. Its not like there is a lot of action prior to confirmation.
4. Ted clearly states that Batman would have to "LET HIM" for WC to wail on him (clearly Tex doesnt see himself as even close to Bruce)
5. As soon as Ted wouldnt see reason Bruce says "you leave me no choice " clearly showing he had been making a conscious choice to that point not to go all out.
6. Once he does he takes Ted in one move with him unable to counter ("clinching" Ted's statement about letting him wail on him.

Now lets look at your Brave and the Bold scans (Joker coerced fight).
a) its pre COIE and Bruce Pre Crisis is no where near post COIE Batman in any way shape of form. Pre crisis Bats got hurt regularly.
b) its clearly stated by Joker they were holding back AND Bruce is clearly surprised Ted struck him so hard. Ted eve apologized and said they can't afford to hold back.
c) the way the story unfolded Batman had been looking for an opening to take o Joker and found it

So we have two fights (one not canon any more) of Ted fighting a holding back Bruce and NOT WINNING.

Yeah thats the same level laughing

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Ha ha so you say I'm wrong but post the scans to confirm what I said?
1. There were only 5 panels of "fight" before Bruce said that clinches it. I dont count full page panels as more than they are and the first page is two guys standing in a cage (no fighting).
2. Those panels amount to WC striking Bruce three times and completely missi g twice (as Bruce grts his measure)
3. Clinched means confirmed ergo ye had to susspect first. Its not like there is a lot of action prior to confirmation.
4. Ted clearly states that Batman would have to "LET HIM" for WC to wail on him (clearly Tex doesnt see himself as even close to Bruce)
5. As soon as Ted wouldnt see reason Bruce says "you leave me no choice " clearly showing he had been making a conscious choice to that point not to go all out.
6. Once he does he takes Ted in one move with him unable to counter ("clinching" Ted's statement about letting him wail on him.

Now lets look at your Brave and the Bold scans (Joker coerced fight).
a) its pre COIE and Bruce Pre Crisis is no where near post COIE Batman in any way shape of form. Pre crisis Bats got hurt regularly.
b) its clearly stated by Joker they were holding back AND Bruce is clearly surprised Ted struck him so hard. Ted eve apologized and said they can't afford to hold back.
c) the way the story unfolded Batman had been looking for an opening to take o Joker and found it

So we have two fights (one not canon any more) of Ted fighting a holding back Bruce and NOT WINNING.

Yeah thats the same level laughing


lol @ you giving commentary of the full fight I posted that showed how much you overstated and was wrong. Its clear Wildcat was not koed by Batman.

lol @ your interpretation of the Brave and the Bold fight. Joker made sure that they couldn't do the typical heroes hold back thing later in the match. That's why it ended in a double ko. Wildcat also isn't at Pre Crisis level big whoop. Wildcat in a street fight is pretty formidable, that's what he does best. lol His whole career highlights are these types of fight. To suggest that Batman would treat Wildcat (who trained him in boxing) in a street brawl w/o gear like fodder is pretty ridiculous.

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I would say that Daredevil is more on Tim Drakes level

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