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Iron Fist vs. Midnighter

1. Classic versions.

2. Modern.


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Immortal Iron Fist #23

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Dodging four different bullets at once, and does so in slow motion so we can see the bullets in mid-air.

Power Man & Iron Fist #89

https://i.imgur.com/ciYjoBD.jpg

Deflecting dozens of flechettes at once, and creating numerous afterimages.

Power Man & Iron Fist #50

https://i.imgur.com/apaLQqQ.jpg


Catching a bullet with bare hands.

Immortal Iron Fist Annual

https://i.imgur.com/mzHglT3.jpg

He is able to move within the time-frame of a microsecond.

Iron Fist v3 #1

http://imgur.com/a/TiUNn

It only takes him 0.05 seconds to charge and use his Iron Fist.

Power Man & Iron Fist #54

https://i.imgur.com/WOnwAf0.jpg

He is able to easily defeat a giant dragon.

Immortal Weapons #5

http://imgur.com/a/0EXnr

He is able to take down a helicarrier with a single blow.

New Avengers #59

http://imgur.com/a/BHP0F

The collateral damage from his Iron Fist is compared to a hydrogen bomb.

Deadly Hands of Kung Fu #20

http://imgur.com/a/76zEa

He is able to murder Zhu-Rong, a God of Fire and Universal Order in a single punch.

Iron Fist: ILW #11

https://i.imgur.com/5ckAEMV.jpg


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Speaking of that.

Immortal Iron Fist #14

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I only brought those up because that's precisely what would happen if Iron Fist was intent on actually murdering them, and had no moral compulsions stopping him.

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Also, Danny is able to trick Daredevil's senses.

Power Man & Iron Fist #77

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He is able to heal himself without even trying now. He doesn't even have to be conscious in order to do it.

Immortal Iron Fist #8

https://i.imgur.com/pwsbIkH.jpg


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There is also the instance where Daniel Rand punches through a helicopter by leaping towards it from the side of a skyscraper. As he fights a bunch of ninjas amidst free fall.

Iron Fist: TLW #1

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He leaped all the way from the skyscraper, through the helicopter, and made it back in one piece.

He catches a bullet here after Brenda tries to kill herself. Do keep in mind since the gun was right next to her head? That means the timeframe he had to cross the distance had to be incredibly tiny.

Iron Fist: The Living Weapon #12

http://imgur.com/a/Fup9N

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You do recall that time Danny defeated Davos without his chi? When Davos had it, and when he had the accumulated knowledge of every Iron Fist that died in the Anomaly Gem? Simply by being that much of a better martial artist?

Iron Fist v2 #2

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Midnighter.


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Midnighter both rounds, very easily.


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Midnighter.


laughing out loud

sorry, not laughing at your pick, just after all those scans you reply with one word. struck me as damn funny....


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Also, what cdtm here said. Danny is able to take anything that's not atypically used in a fight and turn into a deadly fighting style. So much so that even Black Panther asked him to teach him.

Which is what's relevant there.

I figured that was obvious.

There is also defeating Mr. X's telepathy by using a drunken fighting style.

Thunderbolts #137

https://i.imgur.com/jti8zj4.jpg

Defeating Shin Kuei.

Heroes for Hire #19

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Oh, and Danny breaks out of the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak before destroying an inter-dimensional portal with a punch. Which causes a tear in the fabric of reality.

Iron Fist v1 #7

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While we're at that.

Danny's senses are also enhanced. He can literally hear someone sweating behind him.

Immortal Iron Fist #9

https://i.imgur.com/ZiRi3br.jpg

Defeats a bunch of cyborg ninjas with a blast of chi.

Iron Fist: TLW #2

https://i.imgur.com/e0zryDO.jpg

Can project his chi as fireballs.

Immortal Iron Fist #14

https://i.imgur.com/NStAOGM.jpg

Destroys a ship with his Iron Fist.

Power Man & Iron Fist #68

http://imgur.com/a/IuaK0

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Midnighter.


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So, Lord Rand baby shakes and destroys Midnighter before going home to some chocolate loving.

Thread is done.

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Midnighter, solidly. Sharivan, come at me.


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Midnighter, solidly. Sharivan, come at me.


Your mother was a truck stop whore named Sally.

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That's not what you meant?

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Midnighter.

What, you were expecting something else? (Seriously, you're all insane. stick out tongue )


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Originally posted by Sharivan
Your mother was a truck stop whore named Sally.

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That's not what you meant?


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In response to ALL of your scans....

'Door'.


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In response to ALL of your scans....

'Door'.


In response to "Door" I give you "Iron Fist."

He punches it the same way he punched Master Khan's hopes and dreams.

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In response to "Door" I give you "Iron Fist."

He punches it the same way he punched Master Khan's hopes and dreams.


How can he do that, when Midnighter thinks it, and it happens?

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Or he just dumps Danny in space:
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We both agree Midnighter's reactions are at least in the same ballpark as Danny. Starting distance is 0.5km, featureless arena. As shown, Midnighter can think 'door', and it opens around the target. Moreover, Mids is not known for holding back, and is OK with opening with fatal attacks from the start.

Midnighter wins, handily.


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How can he do that, when Midnighter thinks it, and it happens?


Namely Iron Fist is going to do it kind of like this.

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Oh, and Danny breaks out of the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak before destroying an inter-dimensional portal with a punch. Which causes a tear in the fabric of reality.

Iron Fist v1 #7

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Or he just dumps Danny in space:
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Or chops him in half:
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All the instances you provided here shoe Midnighter having to vocalize it, and Door opening near them. At which point he has to force them inside somehow by either pushing them or kicking them.

That's more than enough time for Iron Fist to simply punch Door.

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We both agree Midnighter's reactions are at least in the same ballpark as Danny.


I would argue that Iron Fist is faster if we go by things outside of any fights. However, besides that even if they are similar in speed Midnighter needs to say the word and force Iron Fist through it.

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Starting distance is 0.5km, featureless arena. As shown, Midnighter can think 'door', and it opens around the target. Moreover, Mids is not known for holding back, and is OK with opening with fatal attacks from the start.

Midnighter wins, handily.


How exactly is Midnighter going to do that if Iron Fist immediately punches Door before the former can push him through it?

We know Iron Fist is capable of murdering people as well. Just look at his his fight with the Iron Fist Killer where he decapitated him with a punch.

Then going into things such as Iron Fist being able to transform back into a human being after being reduced to a ghost, and giving said ghost substance again after bridging the dimensional gap in the afterlife.

Deadly Hands of Kung Fu #23

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Deadly Hands of Kung Fu #24

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It's only after this that he make a complete resurrection though.

http://i.imgur.com/Ypzaeec.jpg

So, it's more like using his ghost to substitute his body.

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Namely Iron Fist is going to do it kind of like this.

All the instances you provided here shoe Midnighter having to vocalize it, and Door opening near them. At which point he has to force them inside somehow by either pushing them or kicking them.

That's more than enough time for Iron Fist to simply punch Door.

I would argue that Iron Fist is faster if we go by things outside of any fights. However, besides that even if they are similar in speed Midnighter needs to say the word and force Iron Fist through it.

How exactly is Midnighter going to do that if Iron Fist immediately punches Door before the former can push him through it?

I thought your argument would go like this.

No, he doesn't vocalise it. First scan is just a text bubble, but more importantly, the second scan shows him communicating via telepathy to open the door in space (where sound does not travel, and nobody can hear you say door). A gift from the Engineer, and standard equipment for all Authority members:

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As evidenced by the text bubble with blue bubbles on it. Second to last panel, second scan; posted here again:
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/...ghter12-016.jpg

As for pushing? My first scan showed the doors opening ON the multiple opponents, sending them away. No pushing required. Posted here again:
http://static4.comicvine.com/upload...0/3085733-2.png

In summary: he can summon doors by thinking, and he can open them on opponents (highlighting them in an orange yellow aura). It is usually shown as a rectangular portal, this is true, but it can also be a 'cut-and-paste' BFR.


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