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Good fight. Slight majority to Zealot. She has him in physicals. Both are very skilled.

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Did Zealot get nerfed in nu52?

Because Wildstorm Zealot stomps.

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Matt vs Wildstorm Zealot is a good fight.

No idea about current.

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Did Zealot get nerfed in nu52?

Because Wildstorm Zealot stomps.

Matt was able to hold off Namor. Around water.

That and challenging Spidey many, many times, and even defeating him once.

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Isn't Zealot a "Liefeild" creation?

So....yeah..

DD takes this no matter what.

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Isn't Zealot a "Liefeild" creation?

So....yeah..

DD takes this no matter what.

No, she's not.

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Isn't Zealot a "Liefeild" creation?

So....yeah..

DD takes this no matter what.

She's a Jim Lee creation, even though he stole her look from the original Heavy Metal movie, and slightly altered it. Zealot destroys Matt.

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Zealot destroys Matt.

You talking about DCnU Zealot?

Don't see how WS Zealot has anything but a competitive match here.

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You talking about DCnU Zealot?

Don't see how WS Zealot has anything but a competitive match here.

She's his physical superior for one, and has a slight skill edge. With that said, she destroys him. It would almost be like pitting Matt up against Gamora to a lesser degree and expecting him to do well IMO.

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^ She isn't physically superior to him though.

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Isn't Zealot a "Liefeild" creation?

So....yeah..

DD takes this no matter what.

Originally, yeah. She was a pretty shitty character to be honest. Generic 90's renegade badass archetype. She got better over time though.

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^ She isn't physically superior to him though.

Originally, yeah. She was a pretty shitty character to be honest. Generic 90's renegade badass archetype. She got better over time though.

Originally? Where did it state that?

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Btw, Zealot fighting Midnighter for several hours is better than pretty much anything DD can do.

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Originally? Where did it state that?

He's referring to her design I thought. Early WildCATS was pretty painful to read, Zealot included.

She wasn't literally made by Liefeld though.

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Btw, Zealot fighting Midnighter for several hours is better than pretty much anything DD can do.

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I'm talking about a MA duel. Midnighter is far above DD and Zealot stalemated him.

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I'm talking about a MA duel. Midnighter is far above DD and Zealot stalemated him.

ABC logic doesn't translate to a win. If it did, we could use Matt fighting Namor, the hulk, or spider-man as an example of how he should easily beat zealot(since each of their stats are far above hers and daredevil has survived against each of them). More over, one time showings don't translate to a character's standard operating level (if it did, spider-man would be a legit low herald). Did zealot ever fight midnighter again or do anything as remotely impressive as that?

Not saying that matt wins, but you might want to check how you determine the winner.

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ABC logic doesn't translate to a win. If it did, we could use Matt fighting Namor, the hulk, or spider-man as an example of how he should easily beat zealot(since each of their stats are far above hers and daredevil has survived against each of them). More over, one time showings don't translate to a character's standard operating level (if it did, spider-man would be a legit low herald). Did zealot ever fight midnighter again or do anything as remotely impressive as that?

Not saying that matt wins, but you might want to check how you determine the winner.

Yeah, Zealot stalemated him was beastly. Digi explained it best:

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The single best MA feat I can think of is from Zealot (Lady Zannah) in Wildstorm. She stalemated Midnighter for hours. Let me repeat that, with some context. For literally hours, she gave zero openings to the guy who can run millions of combat scenarios per second and chooses the most advantageous one to win the fight. MNer made his living chumping people way above his statistical paygrade by finding the way to beat them and making it look easy. He's been beaten with guys whose powers are simply too far above his, or AoE attacks that he can't react to in time, etc. But this was meticulous and lengthy...the exact opposite of what should be able to happen to him. So she no-sold his incalculable ability to win MA fights. And then she beat him.

That's some next level flawlessness.

Dec 12th, 2016 05:40 AM

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