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Plastic Man Vs Carnage

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No prep.
No BFR.
I keep hearing (but have never seen scans of) Carnage has mind control.
As stated by Batman in JLA #88, "Plastic Man's mind is no longer organic. It's untouchable by telepathy."
But lets make it a non factor. No mind control, strictly a physical fight.

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...If Plas is at his best, this is an incredible mismatch. His durability and shape shifting allow him to go toe-to-toe with Fernus, who basically walked through the Justice League. He does seem to struggle with temperature extremes (sometimes) but that's a moot point, as Carnage has no such attacks available.

Plastic man takes this, and quite easily as well.


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None fight. Plastic Man stomps. Close thread.


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Hmmm i use to think it's a stomp for Plas but now not so sure. Edging towards Cletus for now


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Plastic Man ftw IMHO. His durability and 'immunities' make him a bad matchup for Carnage. Plas is inorganic and lots of Carnages tricks won't work : suffocation, symbiote 'possession', stabbing, etc..


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Plastic Man ftw IMHO. His durability and 'immunities' make him a bad matchup for Carnage. Plas is inorganic and lots of Carnages tricks won't work : suffocation, symbiote 'possession', stabbing, etc..


Not so sure carnage cant possess him. He possessed similar powersets


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Not so sure carnage cant possess him. He possessed similar powersets

Plastic Man is basically an animate inorganic object. It's like Carnage possessing a lamp post or table. It ain't happening.


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Plastic Man is basically an animate inorganic object. It's like Carnage possessing a lamp post or table. It ain't happening.


His controlling of Norrin makes me think otherwise


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Is the possession some kind of telepathic attack the symbiote does? Since Plas is immune to telepathy.


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Re: Plastic Man Vs Carnage

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No prep.
No BFR.
I keep hearing (but have never seen scans of) Carnage has mind control.
As stated by Batman in JLA #88, "Plastic Man's mind is no longer organic. It's untouchable by telepathy."
But lets make it a non factor. No mind control, strictly a physical fight.


Regardless of how it's done, pretty sure Riv meant for this not to include Carnage taking control, whether he can or can't.


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Is the possession some kind of telepathic attack the symbiote does? Since Plas is immune to telepathy.


No. The symbiote bonds at a molecular level. Which is how he got to SS. Plastic Mans physiology is unique though. Hes like sentient playdo. I always considered his powers more closely resembling Slapstick than Elongated Man or Richards. Even with that I dont see him beyond possession.


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Re: Re: Plastic Man Vs Carnage

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Regardless of how it's done, pretty sure Riv meant for this not to include Carnage taking control, whether he can or can't.

Yeah, i just want a fight. So, in lieu of OP edit:
No possesion crap.

(Although i agree with zopxzop in that it aint happening.)

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Circe trying to morph him worked partially at best(for all we know his changes were him playing along, as things clearly didn't work as Circe intended). It's not directly the same thing, but makes me think Carnage wouldn't be able to control Plas.


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(Although i agree with zopxzop in that it aint happening.)




Youd be wrong too


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His controlling of Norrin makes me think otherwise

Norrin is flesh and blood underneath that Silver coating.
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Plastic man isn't. He's animate inorganic material. Show me Carnage possessing an inorganic object and you win.


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Thing? He possessed Ben Grimm.


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Thing? He possessed Ben Grimm.

Ben Grim bleeds and under that crusty rock was pinkish flesh. Wolverine exposed it.
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Youd be wrong too

Thankfully its a moot point, boo.
If thats you were basing a Carnage win on, you'll have to re-think.
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Originally posted by Delta1938
Circe trying to morph him worked partially at best(for all we know his changes were him playing along, as things clearly didn't work as Circe intended). It's not directly the same thing, but makes me think Carnage wouldn't be able to control Plas.

Yeah, I doubt she wanted to turn him into a cartoon pig...
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...and then have him turn back at will.


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Norrin is flesh and blood underneath that Silver coating.
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Plastic man isn't. He's animate inorganic material. Show me Carnage possessing an inorganic object and you win.




Iirc so can Venom. He's also controlled iron mans armors. Come to think of it i vaguely recall him controlling prosthetics. Let me do a search

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You do that.
Doesnt matter in this thread, but i like scans.

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