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Michael & Lucifer Vs Beyonder & Molecule Man (Post)

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Team 1 is Omnipotent while Team 2 is Nigh-Omnipotent

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Molecule Man >>> Michael + Lucifer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Beyonderweak


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This has been done, in some form or another, ad nauseam -- to the point that most of us don't give a flying fuck anymore.

A consensus will simply never be reached.


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Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
Team 1 is Omnipotent


Huh?


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Team 2.

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Huh?
it even says it in your avatar

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My point being, Lucifer and Michael aren't omnipotent. The Presence could still erase them as easily as he created them, ergo they're nigh-omnipotent, just like Team 2.

Anyways, Team 1 Should win. Team 2 is absurdly formidable, but the literal Demiurgic Power of Yahweh and the literal infinite will of Yahweh should be superior.


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It should be a tie really. They seem to be counterparts of each other: Michael & Lucifer control Matter and energy respectively and Owen and Beyonder do the same sort of ( Owen controls all matter and Beyonder is the living embodiment of the vast energy of another universe outside our own. So, it's a tie imo.


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Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
My point being, Lucifer and Michael aren't omnipotent. The Presence could still erase them as easily as he created them, ergo they're nigh-omnipotent, just like Team 2.

Anyways, Team 1 Should win. Team 2 is absurdly formidable, but the literal Demiurgic Power of Yahweh and the literal infinite will of Yahweh should be superior.
typo i meant team 2 is omnipotent while team 1 is only nigh omnipotent

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Team 1

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Looking back on this, I might actually go with team 2 here.


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Why? Are you saying cube beings are superior to literally the power of God from DC?

Don't be absurd.


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MM and Beyonder have some ridiculous feats to their name even post Retcon.
Examples :
1) Beyonder wiped Death out across the multiverse, no one and nothing could stop him or reverse it.
2) MM hit Beyonder with a blast capable of slagging billions of dimensions, Beyonder coughed.
3) MM gathered all the free energy in the multiverse to create a protective dome, Beyonder shattered it with ease.
4) MM and Beyonder got into a TRANSMULTIVERSAL fight that was causing havoc throughout all dimensions and timelines.

IMHO, T2 wins.


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TOAA > President retcon be yonder

Michael and Lucifer = DC TOAA

Michael and Lucifer > pre retcon beyonder


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Originally posted by zopzop
MM and Beyonder have some ridiculous feats to their name even post Retcon.
Examples :
1) Beyonder wiped Death out across the multiverse, no one and nothing could stop him or reverse it.
2) MM hit Beyonder with a blast capable of slagging billions of dimensions, Beyonder coughed.
3) MM gathered all the free energy in the multiverse to create a protective dome, Beyonder shattered it with ease.
4) MM and Beyonder got into a TRANSMULTIVERSAL fight that was causing havoc throughout all dimensions and timelines.

IMHO, T2 wins.

That's all fine and dandy but I can find feats of DC characters even more ridiculous than that.

Hierarchy matters more than random feats. Do these beat LT too IYO?


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Ah shit, this is post retcon?

LMAO. Michael solostomps.

Also, literally all of those feats zopzop posted except the last one were performed by Pre-retcon Beyonder.


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Originally posted by abhilegend
That's all fine and dandy but I can find feats of DC characters even more ridiculous than that.

Hierarchy matters more than random feats. Do these beat LT too IYO?

Yup. It was shown on panel and stated in the handbook entries that NO ONE present could stop Beyonder from erasing Death :
Original Scene :
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Confirmation years later :
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Further confirmation in the Handbook entry of the LT :
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It's repeated in Death and Eternity's entries too.

The entire cosmic hierarchy couldn't stop Beyonder (even post Retcon) from erasing Death or undo his feat.

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Ah shit, this is post retcon?

LMAO. Michael solostomps.

Also, literally all of those feats zopzop posted except the last one were performed by Pre-retcon Beyonder.

Wrong. See the above scans and hunt down the various handbook entries I mentioned. All valid POST Retcon.


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