Current Super Saiyan God, which way back during the BoG arc was universal, is so weak relative to Jiren that he doesn't even bother to fight back, and just deflects all of Goku's punches with a single finger.
The immensely suppressed Jiren that fought Goku should be capable of defeating Odin with a glare.
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That's Destroyers move. For Carver, who doesn't read comics.
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Not really. The feat everyone keeps pointing to is Beerus and Jiren clashing hands and almost destroying the universe, which somehow proves Beerus and Goku and Jiren is universe busting level.
Except it doesn't prove that.
1. The old kaioshin/god kept saying the waves were getting stronger as they traveled outward. So this wasn't their pure power, like Monarch vaping a universe.
2. The Kaioshins are unreliable narrators, as are the other gods. This is proven by the postera earrings being claimed as having a permanent effect, only later for Goku and Vegeta to defuse after 15 minutes. Whoops.
3. Three waves happened. The universe was still there. Just because they said "One more will eeend it" doesn't make it true, for the above mentioned reason.
4. It was an outlier feat.
And, most importantly:
5. If you want to use the handful of "universal" feats in a sea of city/planetary, at best, you don't get to dismiss all the examples of comic book cheese as outliers. Superman lifted infinity, Eternity, sealed a hole in reality with his heat vision, absorbed Meggaddons universal energy, powered an engine that dragged down a universe etc etc etc..
That's the problem with Dragon Ball fanboys. They're so quick to latch onto any semblance of a feat as definitive, while dismissing any opposing comic book cheese as irrelevant (And even promoting all the low end feats as normal, like Superman struggling with Grundy..)
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