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Juggernaut Moving Forward vs the next list with a twist

so basically thats whats up. each of the characters is standing and cant move. behind the character there is an adamantium wall 1 meter thick and 20 meters into the ground,powered up by all green lanterns to make sure the wall wont break, dent fall or move. now, the juggernaut is standing right infront of the character and starts moving forward into the character. what will happen to the character or to juggernaut?

1. Black Panther
2. Captain america
3. Spider-man
4. Iron-man
5. Namor
6. Colossus
7. Thor
8. Superman
9. Thanos
10. Galactus

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Dione*


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Dione*

Thats his street name tho

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I imagine he'd stop at Galactus.


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Nah. Galactus would need to either go get a snack or take a nap after 10 minutes or so.


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but what will happen to the others?

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Ever stepped on a ketchup packet? Well that is one thru five at least.


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Can Cap place the shield in front of him?


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Really wanna see Cyttorak fight somebody to see what level hes at


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Ever stepped on a ketchup packet? Well that is one thru five at least.


Namor? you believe juggernauts movement is that powerful? if WWH stopped him from moving, dont you think at least namor can avoid getting squashed like you described?

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Can Cap place the shield in front of him?


yes, that should be interesting because the shield is protecting him from impact. however what about constand pressure?

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Really wanna see Cyttorak fight somebody to see what level hes at
This is vital data. The way I tend to interpret these "absolutes" (eg, once Juggs starts moving nothing can stop him), he should be literally unstoppable in his forward momentum and clear the list. But then, if that "absolute" is not really absolute and just hyperbole, and Jugg's power caps with Cytt's, then he gets stopped by whomever is stronger than his benefactor.


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yes, that should be interesting because the shield is protecting him from impact. however what about constand pressure?


The shape of the shield should allow Cap to crouch up against the wall with the shield taking the brunt of the force.


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Celestial tech has bypassed the juggernaut enhancement no? I believe Galactus as defeated celestials no? Therefore itís stands to reason Galactus could overpower the enhancement of juggernaut. Just a thought. Although technically the new juggernaut has been given more power than ever. Enough to kill Cytorak so maybe this doesnít apply.

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When you say new juggernaut do you mean the tubes of cyttorak juggernaut?

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The shape of the shield should allow Cap to crouch up against the wall with the shield taking the brunt of the force.


You're funny. Cap gets squashed between the shield and the wall.


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You're funny. Cap gets squashed between the shield and the wall.


He's right, depending on how concave or convex the shield is, there could be enough room but not sure

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He's right, depending on how concave or convex the shield is, there could be enough room but not sure


Cap's shield is small, it's not as if he can fit his entire body into it. This is why he'd be smushed.


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well cap can put his shield in a horizontal way above his head, that way juggernaut will bump into the edge of the shield and it will be pressed against the wall from one side and by juggernaut from the other side above cap.

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You're funny. Cap gets squashed between the shield and the wall.



No.

He doesn't.

Not even if using the shield as a brace against Juggernaut doesn't work.

NOT, that is, if the participants understand even the basics of this situation.


The original poster (OP) of this thread gave another option, whether he himself was aware of it or not, by giving us this specific scenario. The wall that Cap is being pressed against is under control of Green Lantern rings.
Rings that are under the control of a person's willpower.

Cap has enough of that to do what is thought impossible, as here, for instance, where he manages to break out of a cosmic cube, presumably now in these Marvel retconned days, the same type that Secret Wars Beyonder was:

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And, as this longtime reader knows, Green Lantern ring power can be wrested from that of its standard bearer and used by another individual, as "Dark" Kara demonstrated against John Stewart when she first fought against the Justice League:


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That's from a first time user, who'd never even worn a ring before, taking it from an experienced Green Lantern and knocking him out, with no instruction as to how the rings actually work.

The willful Cap we're shown in the comics can and will override any group of 20 no-names who do not have their lives imperiled and control those rings enough to either re-direct Juggs or make that wall give way. I can see Black Panther managing this, too, for presumably writers thought he demonstrated enough will throughout his history in canon comics to make him resisting deathless hunger plausible. (That happens in a series I will not mention by name in this particular post.)

There is zero doubt in my mind that Captain America with standard knowledge survives this, though.

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