Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
At this point we know any solid victory that our heroes had is because Barbatos allowed it, that would include Parallax. On top of that, people who've seen Parallax firsth and still ranked Barbatos higher.
And as for feats: him killing the previous master of the World Forge(a sibling of the Anti-Monitor and Monitors) and making the multiverse recoil/shake by singing/screaming is superior to any feat Parallax has.
Yeah, but Hal remade literally everything. He was a one man Crisis.
Presumably, that includes Hypertime, other dimensions, other realms. And the Dark Realm and Forge are part of the package.
I'd probably stop short at something like Heaven or Hell, but all the rest is implied in Zero Hour..
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Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
Hal took down Spectre in a straight fight. Barbatos hasn't done much but wait on his minions.
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Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
I mean, Barbatos’ mere screaming causes the entire Multiverse to shake/recoil, along with causing the effing Gentry to flee in fear. A presumably weaker incarnation of Barbatos managed to, as MythLord said, defeat/kill a peer of Monitor/Anti-Monitor.
And it’s definitely a measure of Barbatos’ power if one of his servants can defeat the Spectre and put “the most powerful being in the multiverse” in chains.
I also saw you seem to think that Hal remade the Dark Multiverse...even though it’s not actually a part of the DC Multiverse.
Scott Snyder actually implies that the Dark Multiverse is INFINITELY more vast than any scale we’ve ever seen in DC...which would include the 5th dimension/Monitor Realm/etc:
There’s also statements in Metal itself about how the Dark Multiverse makes the entirety of DC microbial by comparison.
Ultimately, I’m pretty sure Parallax is thoroughly outclassed here. Barbatos is literally an order of magnitude or three beyond the likes of the effing Gentry, who are about as meta and godlike as you can get.
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The Dark Multiverse is essentially a reflection of the Overvoid -- the 'yang' to the Overvoid's 'yin'... They are equal in size/scale. So yes, all realms that comprise Morrison's Multiverse would be microbial in comparison.
...But the 5th dimension does not exist in Morrison's Map of the Multiverse. By all implications, it is beyond the Multiverse entirely... Likely even beyond the Overvoid as well, given Morrison's take on what exactly the 5th dimension represents. /shrug
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Last edited by Galan007 on Feb 20th, 2018 at 10:51 PM
Alright, quick run down:
1. Hal remade a universe not the Multiverse
2. The Dark Multiverse, the World Forge and everything else exist outside the Mainstream Multiverse, regardless
3. Hal never took down Spectre; he just blasted him once and Spectre later returned and judged his ass to oblivion. The Spectre has so far bested Parallax four times, has been stated as powerful enough to destroy Parallax and, despite "fearing it", has overcome it's hold over Hal Jordan.
4. The Batman Who Laughs took down the Spectre, and he's one of Barbatos' underlings.
As I mentioned, Hal never actually 'remade' anything... He nearly remade cosmology, but was stopped before he was able to do so. That said, Hal was recreating FAR more than a single universe...
"Parallax attempted to create new worlds and timelineS [...] Entire timelineS began to collapse, as alternate realitieS seeped in and out of existence...": https://i.imgur.com/wXikD1K.jpg
This scan clarifies it even moreso... "With reality destroyed, Parallax began to recast history [...] He would have created multiple universeS with multiple earths, unwittingly restoring much of what existed before the Crisis...": https://i.imgur.com/APi6xc9.jpg
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