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jedi invasion!

composite luke, vader, yoda, kenobi and maul are transported to time square. they run a gauntlet of teams. how far do they get? (order is not precise though i tried to get it mostly right--certain individuals may cause more trouble than others. i think there is a lot of good discussion to be had. jedi v raven? ghost rider? brother voodoo?) anyway, to arms!

1. new thunderbolts: punisher, rulk, elektra, pool and black tarantula

2. classic champions: herc, angel, ice man, black widow, ghost rider

3. ff: sue, ben, johnny, reed and she-hulk

4. x-men: colossus, storm, cyclops, emma, night crawler

5. suicide squad: croc, harley, enchantress, deadshot and katana

6. titans: nightwing, cyborg, changeling, starfire and raven

7. uncanny avengers: vision, brother voodoo, quicksilver, rogue and sabertooth

8. new champions: chulk, viv vision, cyclops, nova (sam) and ms marvel (kamala)

ADDED BONUS: who do you figure is the most powerful character all 5 at once can take? black adam? unworthy thor? apocalypse? god cable?

just how far can these jedi go??


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the shouldnt get past one but if they manange 2 is over and done.

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Would luke be considered mid herald level based on his comic feats?


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Maul and Kenobi are overpowered. Way too powerful for anyone in this thread


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I don't see how they make it past the first team. Not with Rulk there.


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With composite feats, they easily clear.


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Maul and Kenobi are overpowered. Way too powerful for anyone in this thread


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Would luke be considered mid herald level based on his comic feats?


realistically, even with composite versions (as i said i was using) i wouldn't place him in mid-herald. digi knows him pretty well, and we had a classic bz at high meta level where he used composite luke. ha can likely beat SOME low metas, but he would certainly lose to some as well. a case can be made that yoda may is a more legit low herald i think, (galan?) and vader can match luke, and maybe exceed him in some areas, but basically i think they range from high mid meta here to maybe high low herald. at least that's how i see them in general terms. though i am open to reinterpretation.


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I don't see how they make it past the first team. Not with Rulk there.


it would depend on how many were left standing. we saw what a pair of claws into hulk's brain can do. a light saber or 2 should be able to do the same and at the very least get a ko ftw. speaking as devil's advocate of course.


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a composite may beat a hulk...stranger things snd what not. but iceman/rider would solo, possibly immortal herc.


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a composite may beat a hulk...stranger things snd what not. but iceman/rider would solo, possibly immortal herc.
soul siphon, dark transfer, and bfr should do it. Force storm could also work.


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realistically, even with composite versions (as i said i was using) i wouldn't place him in mid-herald. digi knows him pretty well, and we had a classic bz at high meta level where he used composite luke. ha can likely beat SOME low metas, but he would certainly lose to some as well. a case can be made that yoda may is a more legit low herald i think, (galan?) and vader can match luke, and maybe exceed him in some areas, but basically i think they range from high mid meta here to maybe high low herald. at least that's how i see them in general terms. though i am open to reinterpretation.


Would depend on if you took their top showings or average, likely. Most of the best Jedi have 1-2 feats that are otherworldly, but most times look solidly mid or high meta.

Composite Luke was starting to put together enough esoteric powers that he was probably pushing the line into low herald. But like, if you just look at traditional combat feats like speed, tk feats, telepathy, etc. he has several equals or betters in high meta.


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soul siphon, dark transfer, and bfr should do it. Force storm could also work.
Just jabbing a lightsaber in would beat Iceman in 99 percent of his appearances.

He's far removed from his 2006 Elemental Ice God Forum Form. Beating Superman and Silver Surfer... suck my ass he ever does that.


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I was going to post a long explanation, but decided not to.


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Re: jedi invasion!

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Originally posted by leonidas
composite luke, vader, yoda, kenobi and maul are transported to time square. they run a gauntlet of teams. how far do they get? (order is not precise though i tried to get it mostly right--certain individuals may cause more trouble than others. i think there is a lot of good discussion to be had. jedi v raven? ghost rider? brother voodoo?) anyway, to arms!

1. new thunderbolts: punisher, rulk, elektra, pool and black tarantula

2. classic champions: herc, angel, ice man, black widow, ghost rider

3. ff: sue, ben, johnny, reed and she-hulk

4. x-men: colossus, storm, cyclops, emma, night crawler

5. suicide squad: croc, harley, enchantress, deadshot and katana

6. titans: nightwing, cyborg, changeling, starfire and raven

7. uncanny avengers: vision, brother voodoo, quicksilver, rogue and sabertooth

8. new champions: chulk, viv vision, cyclops, nova (sam) and ms marvel (kamala)

ADDED BONUS: who do you figure is the most powerful character all 5 at once can take? black adam? unworthy thor? apocalypse? god cable?

just how far can these jedi go??


I think they could clear up to about #7. I don't know that they always would, though, or how likely some are. Power people like Rulk, Shulk, Herc, etc. could obviously pull wins. But lightsabers' deus ex-style cutting ability is a great answer to bricks of any stature.

And you're right, how they'd interact with people like Ghost Rider (no idea), Raven (I'd probably favor the Jedi, since her primary go-tos are empathic attacks and tk, both of which they can counter handily, and they tend to have a firmer grasp over their emotions, which can be turned against Raven), and magic (again, no idea) throws a monkey wrench into anything resembling certainty.


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Are light sabers in the comics really OP? You think they'd slice up Herc?


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Waiting for Galan to post how Vader force chokes & snaps their necks while from entire galaxies away and masturbating...

Or you just wanted Luke to be a composite version, Leo?


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Originally posted by deathslash
soul siphon, dark transfer, and bfr should do it. Force storm could also work.



no....i cant even recall any of the mentioned using a force storm or dark transfer

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Just jabbing a lightsaber in would beat Iceman in 99 percent of his appearances.

He's far removed from his 2006 Elemental Ice God Forum Form. Beating Superman and Silver Surfer... suck my ass he ever does that.



read more comics...he can as he has recently frozen light speed, frozen someone from inside out and created sentinal sized golems that work independently of him


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Iceman sucks most of the time, even when he's supposed to have uber power.

He did have great showings in latest years, though. Most recently against Amped Juggernaut... and Bobby was holding back, as he's no longer going crazy owning everyone in his way.

So yeah, Iceman is a threat. His character sucks, he's literally gay and writers can't decide what to do with him, but he is a threat on vs boards.


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no....i cant even recall any of the mentioned using a force storm or dark transfer




read more comics...he can as he has recently frozen light speed, frozen someone from inside out and created sentinal sized golems that work independently of him
erm by the time he was grand master, Luke had learned everything that he could regarding the force. He was trained by some of the most skilled and knowledgeable force users ever, had access to the spirits of the Jedi that had become one with the force, and had even been trained by Sidious. Even assuming that Luke couldn't use those powers, he can still achieve the same effect as using a force storm by using fold space.

Luke caught Tadar'Ro's eye and smiled a little. Then, before Ben knew what was happening, there was a sharp pop of displaced air. The Vor'cha stick simply vanished from his hands to reappear in his father's. He gaped for a second, and then realized that while he had been studying so hard to learn flow-walking, Luke had readily mastered the other known Aing-Tii Force technique. He laughed a little as Luke tossed the stick back to his son.
Taken from: Fate of the Jedi : Omen


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