The Silver Surfer has great control over gravity as well for instance manipulating the gravity of two planets to be in compatible orbit. So there's really nothing Graviton could do to him that he could not counter. Not even mentioning his advantages like speed and telepathy.
Surfer also recently encountered a being who had the gravitational pull of a planet (warrior zero i think it was) and he was choking the surfer until he got saved. Later on in the series he handled him quite easily from what i remember. He has also other gravitational resisting feats but point here is that he has highs and he has lows and if we average it out i think graviton wins. And pretty handily at that.
So what your saying is Graviton has more highs than Surfer? Has Graviton ever moved Planets? I mean he has over extended himself and become an Oozara Graviton Rock Monster. I gave you a compliment pal, why so triggered?
Im saying he wins based on relative portrayal, since he was superior to heralds throughout his appearances. You can go ahead and mention Surfer highs as you like, i guarantee you id be able to match it with an otherwise unremarkable showing for surfer but i don't like going on low balling fests. Basically if we average it out, Graviton should win handily.
Im not triggered btw, i just dislike your snarky comment of me unable to prove that Graviton is trans tier when i made my case in that other thread. Or at least that's what i got from your post.
Wasn't being snarky; I enjoy your posts more than most. I disagree about him being trans, and Leo and I go way back, so I know more of his posting and have a preference due to quantity. While I disagree with your conclusion doesn't mean I don't enjoy reading your ideas.
Surfer one-shotted Warrior One once he got serious in their last encounter and resisted having the gravity force of an entire planet around his throat in the first meeting. And he won both fights under his own power even though he never wanted to fight, and was worried about civilians in the first meetings.
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Graviton is not beating Surfer who is better than him at everything. Plus Surfer could energy drain or just trap him in his board. Surfer can causally create black holes while destroying a planet. What is Graviton going to do that will stop him?
Yeah but he beats or does good against those people because he uses gravity against them. Throw a little gravity here, a little gravity there.
Surfer meanwhile has some of the best gravity resist in the game. Even in his Thunderbolts feat he had to use the sun as it was the biggest gravity source to beat The Shadow Rapist.
A little like trying to drown Magneto in metal. Or strangle Firelord with flame. Surfer is Marvel's Vegeta when it comes to gravity.
this was my exact point. Surfer was getting beaten in the first encounter but beat warrior zero/one in their second encounter. It was exactly my argument. That surfer has highs and lows as anybody with basic knowledge knows.
Uh, beat him? Just like, y'know, Medusa/Karnak KO'd him? Just like Runner beat him? Just like Obliterator beat him? Just like Morg beat him? Just like WM thor beat him? Just like random space pirates beat him? Just like a random meteor chunk has KO'd him (several times)? just like random SHIELD agents with some stark tech KO'd him? Just like HE has beaten him?
Should i go on or is that enough? But please continue mentioning his high end feats.
Surfer himself admitted that creating a black hole is never his go to tactic anyway in Silver surfer: In thy name. And Graviton can increase his density to infinity as well.
I disagree, i just referenced an example where he was being choked by warrior zero. Sometimes he does good sometimes he doesn't. Wasn't he also unable to resist a black hole in Galactus the devourer?
I actually never got the impression that surfer was the gravity master that you're making him out to be. But im open to change my mind.
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Surfer one-shotted Warrior One once he got serious in their last encounter and resisted having the gravity force of an entire planet around his throat in the first meeting. And he won both fights under his own power even though he never wanted to fight, and was worried about civilians in the first meetings.
