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Superman Vs Psycho Man and Annihilus

Current Superman.
In the Negative Zone.


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Current Supes is too weak for a match like this.
Annihilus himself is enough of a threat to Post Crisis Superman.

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What? Current Superman is post crisis Superman with new 52 Superman feats combined.

Superman would break annihilus in half.


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What? Current Superman is post crisis Superman with new 52 Superman feats combined.

Superman would break annihilus in half.

Yeah, old argument, but their showings said otherwise. Current Supes has issues breathing in space while PC Supes had never faced that problem during OWAW. Heck, even N52 Supes alone has better striking feats compared to current (Rebirth) Supes.

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Yeah, old argument, but their showings said otherwise. Current Supes has issues breathing in space while PC Supes had never faced that problem during OWAW. Heck, even N52 Supes alone has better striking feats compared to current (Rebirth) Supes.

Where did current Superman showed needing to breath in space? Post Crisis Superman also had to breath in space from writer to writer.

Also you're comparing Superman's own feats to Superman. Of course he wouldn't have the same feats all the time.

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Everything in post crisis and new 52 is canon to current Superman.

This comicvine approach is stupid where actual on panel history of the character is ignored.


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Where did current Superman showed needing to breath in space? Post Crisis Superman also had to breath in space from writer to writer.

Also you're comparing Superman's own feats to Superman. Of course he wouldn't have the same feats all the time.

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Everything in post crisis and new 52 is canon to current Superman.

This comicvine approach is stupid where actual on panel history of the character is ignored.


Agree on the part that characters' feats change all the time but the gap is too high in all honesty. PC Supes has statements of planet-shattering power and moon busting feats, N52 Supes has pushed Brainiac's starship with J'onn and his weaker counterpart, Ultraman, had also moved the moon...etc
But what has current Supes done? Despite his previous showing of tanking earth core at the beginning of Rebirth, he really lacks the showings to approach that level.
Also, LOL I get it, this site is against CV but frankly I did not get it from there, nor have I been there.
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Superman hasn't done a single thing proving he has become more powerful than he was before New 52. Like I've always said, him merging with his New 52 counterpart brought him back to his original power, it did NOT amp him. He was weakened due to that part of him being taken from him, when they merged back, it made him complete again (post crisis Supes).


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Agree on the part that characters' feats change all the time but the gap is too high in all honesty. PC Supes has statements of planet-shattering power and moon busting feats, N52 Supes has pushed Brainiac's starship with J'onn and his weaker counterpart, Ultraman, had also moved the moon...etc
But what has current Supes done? Despite his previous showing of tanking earth core at the beginning of Rebirth, he really lacks the showings to approach that level.
Also, LOL I get it, this site is against CV but frankly I did not get it from there, nor have I been there.
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He didnt tank Earth core though. It was hurting him, badly.


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Agree on the part that characters' feats change all the time but the gap is too high in all honesty. PC Supes has statements of planet-shattering power and moon busting feats, N52 Supes has pushed Brainiac's starship with J'onn and his weaker counterpart, Ultraman, had also moved the moon...etc

He has both? You're simply not comprehending that current Superman is the one who did both.

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But what has current Supes done? Despite his previous showing of tanking earth core at the beginning of Rebirth, he really lacks the showings to approach that level.


Why would he need to do that to prove the feats he has already done? Current Superman busted through Mxy infinite universal barriers while losing his memories.

Do you need to prove Annihilus feats after Secret Wars which killed previous characters and recreated those?

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Also, LOL I get it, this site is against CV but frankly I did not get it from there, nor have I been there.
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No, we are just against stupidity.

That's just for communication purposes. That's also James Robinson who had post crisis Superman wear those too.


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He has both? You're simply not comprehending that current Superman is the one who did both.

I'm aware of the current Supes being amalagon of PC and N52, but judged by showings he isn't as impressive as before. As of the merging part, it clearly portrayed in comics that ''New Earth Supes+Prime Earth Supes=Rebirth Supes'', and by being a new, complete version of Superman, he may or may not possess the same power level, as of now, feats don't suggest so.
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Why would he need to do that to prove the feats he has already done? Current Superman busted through Mxy infinite universal barriers while losing his memories.

Do you need to prove Annihilus feats after Secret Wars which killed previous characters and recreated those?

Seen that, and that makes him infinite universal? Current Superman has infinite universal attack potency? Also since when does one needs to be infinite universal to break the barriers?

Nope, I am merely debating for whether or not current Supes should be allowed to use his PC/N52 feats.


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No, we are just against stupidity.

That's just for communication purposes. That's also James Robinson who had post crisis Superman wear those too.

Sure, CV has a lot of problems itself according to what they say in CBR, but so does any other forum.

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Posted the wrong one with less evidence. Also it served as an communication device and air supply, PC Supes and N52 Supes had both talked in space easily.

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Originally posted by AbelAnderson
I'm aware of the current Supes being amalagon of PC and N52, but judged by showings he isn't as impressive as before. As of the merging part, it clearly portrayed in comics that ''New Earth Supes+Prime Earth Supes=Rebirth Supes'', and by being a new, complete version of Superman, he may or may not possess the same power level, as of now, feats don't suggest so.


So a bunch of nothing and your assumptions?

What feats when he is the one who performed all feats?

Suddenly he is weaker than either parts of his beings?

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Seen that, and that makes him infinite universal? Current Superman has infinite universal attack potency? Also since when does one needs to be infinite universal to break the barriers?


Those were infinite numbers of universal barriers which he broke through.

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Nope, I am merely debating for whether or not current Supes should be allowed to use his PC/N52 feats.


Who are you to able to judge that? The comics have already made it clear.

Your opinion whether he is allowed or not is pretty much irrelevant.

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Sure, CV has a lot of problems itself according to what they say in CBR, but so does any other forum.

https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1...1CXHgkd3Ss4v8BW


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Posted the wrong one with less evidence. Also it served as an communication device and air supply, PC Supes and N52 Supes had both talked in space easily.


So has rebirth Superman.

Heck, just in recent Superman by Bendis, he is flying around the galaxy without any mask.


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This was fun reading. thumb up


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He didnt tank Earth core though. It was hurting him, badly.


My scans didnt work. Here you go...

https://static4.comicvine.com/uploa...earths+core.jpg

The core of Earth was killing him...

https://static1.comicvine.com/uploa...32466-justi.jpg

And before ABHI adds anything to the showing, here is Cyborg giving us details on the temperature and pressure of Earth core (basically warning Superman)...

https://m.imgur.com/unp2SLx


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Originally posted by carver9
My scans didnt work. Here you go...

https://static4.comicvine.com/uploa...earths+core.jpg

The core of Earth was killing him...

https://static1.comicvine.com/uploa...32466-justi.jpg

And before ABHI adds anything to the showing, here is Cyborg giving us details on the temperature and pressure of Earth core (basically warning Superman)...

https://m.imgur.com/unp2SLx

We have more showings of Superman actually surviving the core, than "it" hurting him.


But to go on..


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Originally posted by AbelAnderson
I'm aware of the current Supes being amalagon of PC and N52, but judged by showings he isn't as impressive as before. As of the merging part, it clearly portrayed in comics that ''New Earth Supes+Prime Earth Supes=Rebirth Supes'', and by being a new, complete version of Superman, he may or may not possess the same power level, as of now, feats don't suggest so.

Seen that, and that makes him infinite universal? Current Superman has infinite universal attack potency? Also since when does one needs to be infinite universal to break the barriers?

Nope, I am merely debating for whether or not current Supes should be allowed to use his PC/N52 feats.



Sure, CV has a lot of problems itself according to what they say in CBR, but so does any other forum.

https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1...1CXHgkd3Ss4v8BW
Posted the wrong one with less evidence. Also it served as an communication device and air supply, PC Supes and N52 Supes had both talked in space easily.


If you want to argue that it's not continuity, you're crazy

If you want to make a case that there is a disparity in power, please go on. There are many cases in comics; most notably Thor, Kal-L.
This current Superman is only ~16 months. You can't actually expect him to stack up as many feat as PFP Superman considering that he is 20+ years old.


What we can see so far suggest he is the same, if not, stronger.


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Superman hasn't done a single thing proving he has become more powerful than he was before New 52. Like I've always said, him merging with his New 52 counterpart brought him back to his original power, it did NOT amp him. He was weakened due to that part of him being taken from him, when they merged back, it made him complete again (post crisis Supes).

No he was not weakened. Please prove that it he was weakened


Either you're saying
N52 is half of the original superman in power, despite the fact that this guy was power lifting earth for 5 days with no sunlight.


It's pretty clear what happened in Superman Rebirth/Action Comics. It was just a spiritual type of combination so that the fans wouldn't get upset regarding N52 Superman not being "the" Superman


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Current Superman.
In the Negative Zone.


Does Annihilus have the CCR, or the Quantum Bands?


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No he was not weakened. Please prove that it he was weakened


Either you're saying
N52 is half of the original superman in power, despite the fact that this guy was power lifting earth for 5 days with no sunlight.


It's pretty clear what happened in Superman Rebirth/Action Comics. It was just a spiritual type of combination so that the fans wouldn't get upset regarding N52 Superman not being "the" Superman


Little late for that. He hasn't been "the" Superman since the 1940's.


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Originally posted by carver9
My scans didnt work. Here you go...

https://static4.comicvine.com/uploa...earths+core.jpg

The core of Earth was killing him...

https://static1.comicvine.com/uploa...32466-justi.jpg

And before ABHI adds anything to the showing, here is Cyborg giving us details on the temperature and pressure of Earth core (basically warning Superman)...

https://m.imgur.com/unp2SLx

What's your point carter?


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Originally posted by carver9
My scans didnt work. Here you go...

https://static4.comicvine.com/uploa...earths+core.jpg

The core of Earth was killing him...

https://static1.comicvine.com/uploa...32466-justi.jpg

And before ABHI adds anything to the showing, here is Cyborg giving us details on the temperature and pressure of Earth core (basically warning Superman)...

https://m.imgur.com/unp2SLx


Haha

I was going to post that in Character Ownage a while back, but decided against it. Glad you read it Carver. thumb up

The core of the Earth was hotter than Superman could make his heat vision.

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We have more showings of Superman actually surviving the core, than "it" hurting him.


But to go on..


Ahhhh....so if the most recent showing has Superman unable to survive the core of the planet Earth for long, it does not supersede other showings, because they are superior in number?

Interesting.

Does this apply to ALL characters, or is this one of those, only for Superman type things?


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