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Longshot vs Domino

Who will be lucky enough to win this fight?


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Domino.

People seem to forget that when Longshot is in proximity with other Probability Manipulators, his own powers over probability malfuctions, meanwhile Domino doesn't have that weakness.


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Originally posted by MaZeRaIII
Domino.

People seem to forget that when Longshot is in proximity with other Probability Manipulators, his own powers over probability malfuctions, meanwhile Domino doesn't have that weakness.


So basically what you are saying is that Lonshot's best chance in this fight would be to ...LONGSHOT Domino?


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Originally posted by Flyattractor
So basically what you are saying is that Lonshot's best chance in this fight would be to ...LONGSHOT Domino?
I am not impressed, too expectable

https://imgur.com/a/SqnZYg5


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I am not impressed, too expectable

https://imgur.com/a/SqnZYg5


His claws should have come out his wrist that way.


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If it comes down to agility Longshots is better than the training Domino received from the Master.


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To be fair , all those stats are irrelevant because of her super-power factor, since Longshot as explained already is at disadvantage due to his powers not working when he is in proximity with other probability manipulators, Domino is gonna have basic advantage of actually having powers - so LS can be faster, stronger or whatever, but those factors would be irrelevant when Domino pulls a lightning on him - https://static.comicvine.com/upload...scanned_11.jpg, or some other madness, and the fact that he won't be able to damage her, because he would miss with every shot, cause she is too lucky for that. big grin


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Longshots love will save him.
Dazzler would turn up.
Then Domino would get her head either sawed off by a dart or a lazer.


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Longshos may have love on his side, but sadly not mistress luck, so the lasers would fry sadly Longshot here, he is in rather unlucky position here. smile


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Longshot can beat Domino and the Black Cat at once.


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He can try, but will get his arse beaten instead.

And too bad he would have no superpowers when he meets other probability manipulators, because of his weakness, do not forget that, he would be your average peak human, what's the point of that if your opponent's powers would make your attacks useless because luck is on their side, plus Domino is a much more skilled fighter, which makes it more of a mismatch.


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Longshots luck power has always been good or bad can happen to himself.


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Which is irrelevant given that when he encounters other probability manipulators like himself, his powers malfuction, basically making him powerless, even mediocre wikis like marvel.wiki.com got that weakness part covered.


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Longshot can see events as well.


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Originally posted by MaZeRaIII
To be fair , all those stats are irrelevant because of her super-power factor, since Longshot as explained already is at disadvantage due to his powers not working when he is in proximity with other probability manipulators


This is completely and utterly false. Longshot's luck is never a problem around other luck manipulators. I can think of at least a dozen occasions where his luck worked perfectly fine against other luck manipulators. Your link doesn't work so it doesn't prove anything. for one thing in his mini series in the 90s Mojo sent 5 like manipulators against him and they fell like fodder. The only thing that makes Longshot's luck not work is when he tries to use it for personal gain. Protecting himself isn't an issue, winning a fight isn't an issue. If he tries to use it however to win something? to gain money, or to gain things that he would enjoy then it fails. In that same miniseries his luck failed him when he used it to try and earn money as a stunt man.

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Originally posted by beatboks
This is completely and utterly false. Longshot's luck is never a problem around other luck manipulators.


I assume you haven't read much when it comes to Longshot, because that's exactly how he meets other characters.

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Like for example when he faces Mr. Kanu or how i like to call him Longshot v2.0, since along with having similar powers, he also has the whole eye glow effect as well, guess what happened when they encountered? - Longshot's powers malfuctioned and backfired on him - https://imgur.com/a/HB882P3

Another example comes in form of Black Cat, who is character from Spider Man comics, what happenes when she encounters Longshot? Complete and total backfire of their probability powers. - https://imgur.com/a/PGQAOwU

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So, yes, evidence cut and clear shows that when Longshot encounters another probability manipulator in battle situation, the said power malfuctions, rather simple to understand.

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I can think of at least a dozen occasions where his luck worked perfectly fine against other luck manipulators.


Right you can name dozen examples, yet i don't see a single one with a name or estabilished probability manipulators, coincidence? I think not.

Overall the encounters that you will be able to provide would be mere Longshot being with ALLIES who have same powers (which is irrelevant since malfunction comes from OPPOSING probability fields, rather than allies' ones) , but not ENEMIES, and practicaly no examples of them being in battle, or those characters probability powers working in OFF mode, like Quark's powers, who has same set of skills as Longshot, but given his pesimistic nature his power is mostly off, so he has to consciously give himself will for his powers for them to work, plus as said already Quark is an ally, not enemy, thus not opposing probability field.

But anyways the evidence shows that when in BATTLE with other probability manipulators his power malfuctions, but if let's say he is not in battle and just travels from place A to place B with other probability bender, there is no malfuction as showcased with Black Cat when she was with Longshot going to their destination, there was no power malfuction during that time, but when they were in battle, their powers backfired.


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Originally posted by beatboks
for one thing in his mini series in the 90s Mojo sent 5 like manipulators against him and they fell like fodder.


First, Longshot didn't have mini-series in 90s, he had a simple one-shot.
Second, the feat you are describing is non-existent, nor has ever happened, unless you of course can provide actual scans of the instance. While yes Mojo did send goons, but none of them were probability manipulators (except Quark, but he didn't fight Longshot and was his ally), so that's false from the beginning.

But anyways if you can present evidence of that that would be much better.

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Originally posted by beatboks
The only thing that makes Longshot's luck not work is when he tries to use it for personal gain.


Already proved my point, read above.

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Originally posted by beatboks
Protecting himself isn't an issue, winning a fight isn't an issue.


You are assuming, i haven't read anything on Longshot? Lol, i have read most of the comics with his apperances, i know how his powers work, no need for explaining, thanks.

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Originally posted by beatboks
If he tries to use it however to win something? to gain money, or to gain things that he would enjoy then it fails.


That depends actually, since this is rather the most inconsistent part of his powers, you see in Longshot Saves The Marvel Universe he wanted to eat a taco, but he didn't have money to buy taco, then boom his luck powers miraculously bring that money to him, of course he didn't buy the taco, and then plot of the story goes on.

Basic example of him wanting personal gain and his powers actually giving him.

But overall this aspect of his powers merely depends on the writer really.

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Originally posted by beatboks
In that same miniseries his luck failed him when he used it to try and earn money as a stunt man.


Yet, it didn't fail when he wanted some money to buy tacos. big grin


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Originally posted by Wonder Man
Longshot can see events as well.
Which will lack any useful application in actual battle, it's basically like looking into object's or person's past, but he needs to touch people or objects to do so, anyways it is good power for detective asset and gaining information, but in battle it lacks actual use.


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