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Punisher Vs WW lasso of truth

Can he resist it?

The only precedence iíve ever seen for maybe saying yes, is him resisting Ghost Riderís penance stare:

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A friend provided this as further possible proof, saying Batmanís resisted the lasso...

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...but to me, it seems more like proof of what some have said that Bats is just that, Batman, and Bruce Wayne is the disguise. He was actually being truthful, not resisting.

Anyway; Punisher, can he resist the lasso iyo.


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No he can't.

Same way he's not resisting the Penance Stare. Resisting would be him actually having regret, but not suffering the effects of it.

Just like Batman isn't resisting. He's telling the truth - or at least, what he believes to be the truth.

Same way you could ask a Christian if there is a God, or a Hindu if there are multiple gods.


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Odd, as that Punisher scan has been used for years as proof that he did resist. I actually think that was one of our earlyest conversations here, when i said Frank had resisted the PS in GRís 90s book, and you said no, he only resisted it this one time.


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Hereís at least 2 times from back in the day when you used the above scan as proof of resistance.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...mp;pagenumber=2

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...mp;pagenumber=4


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Yeah, the more I read the scan the more I convince myself he didn't resist it, as he used the manner I said above - he just doesn't have that weakness. It's like saying Batman resists Kryptonite driving solar energy out of his cells - whilst its true it does not happen, it's not his natural durability that does it, but merely the absence of solar enerfy in the first place


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Uh huh. smile


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The Lasso doesn't typically compel the wielder to do anything other than tell the truth.

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The Lasso doesn't typically compel the wielder to do anything other than tell the truth.

^^^it can also show the lassoed person the truth.
Its how WW managed to stop Ares in her first Post Crisis storyline of her ongoing book. There was no way she could actually beat him, but he stopped on his own when he saw what the lasso showed him.

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Always thought that was pretty neat.


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Yeah. So he won't resist the lasso at all. He'll just regret nothing. His eyes are WIDE open. No hidden parts of the soul to trouble him.

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Uh huh. smile


Lol. Am sure you're just chalking it up to 'that slippery sneaky DS', but the general points are there, and consistent:

Punisher was not affected.

I didn't.... actually, in those threads you've quoted, I only posted the images to show it not working on people. You said I posted it as proof of resistance.....when I never did,at least not in those posts you quoted.


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Uh huh. smile


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^^^And hey, iím not disagreeing w. you, iím just acknowledging your...interesting replies w. a smile on my face.

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Yeah. So he won't resist the lasso at all. He'll just regret nothing. His eyes are WIDE open. No hidden parts of the soul to trouble him.

Damn. I hadnt thought of that. Nice.


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It can also be called considered pis.

Pretty sure thatís not the way the Stare works. Doesnít matter if you except what youíve done, Castle still carries the blood of the Inoccents on his hands. For his war has bleed to the innocent.

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Others have done well against the stare, though.

Deadpool, Logan. Both have killed a lot.


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Yeah. I believe the writer misconstrued the Penance Stare. I always thought the judgement was external and not internal. His reaction would be more appropriate for the Lasso, in fact.

But I may be misinformed about the Penance Stare.

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Yeah. I believe the writer misconstrued the Penance Stare. I always thought the judgement was external and not internal. His reaction would be more appropriate for the Lasso, in fact.

But I may be misinformed about the Penance Stare.


Youíre right. The Stare when first portrayed didnít care if you accepted the evils you committed. As long as evil was commuted, it would take it and multiple it. And letís be honest, Frank has commuted many evils.

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Re: Punisher Vs WW lasso of truth

Re Riv:

Bruce Wayne has arguably the most disciplined mind on his world

When he steps on a stage

He stays in character

Snare him with the lasso at his house or at some random location when he is not portraying a role and ask him who he is

He will tell you he is Bruce Wayne

When he has to pose as a person criminals can trust and can trade with... ask him who he is with the lasso around him and he will truthfully tell you who he is there as.

If You Have The Intelligence to ask Him:

What is your identity when you are out of costume?

Then because he's a Badass he would say 'The Detective' (Considered by Some as The World's Greatest) and keep going through his other titles before he has to give up Bruce Wayne... That's how Batman was resisting the rope

For example If you put the lasso around a person in public office while they are actively performing their role as a public official and ask them who they are with the LOT

The President in Office could (and would) truthfully identify as The President in Office. The President in Office could further truthfully amd correctly identify as The Commander In Chief in times Of War in Countries where they have Prime Ministers The Prime Minister In Office could correctly identify as The Prime Minister In Office, The Acting Commander In Chief, Member Of Parliament for >insert local office here - usually the county / state where they were born and raised, their political base<

Superman could have 'resisted' the rope if he wasn't totally square.

That Lasso Of Truth like any tool or device is only as effective as the hand (or the mind) which wields it.

If Batman or Lex Luthor had that thing...

On Focus

- In The Zone -

When you're sitting an exam, When every single part of your being is immersed in an activity = when you're in the zome =

if you've just won a one on one match = you've just won The WBC Unified Super Heavyweight Title - That Exact Second - A Reporter (Your Mom) shoves a microphone in your face and Asks You: WHO ARE YOU?

What are you going to say:

That exact moment

I'd bet yall you are gonna say

I AM ...........................................


When you're in the zone - you are on stage - you are performing as a character - with total discipline - total focus - you are that person - you perform like a champion - you perform like a winner and you win - you are a champion - you are a winner

Thats the positive side of Absolute Focus (You deflect every single thing which is not relevant to the immediate task you're doing)

On the negative side = Total focus to malfeasance = Temporary Insanity


Batman isn't crazy, a little bit crazy or insane he's a Karnak Level Mind Athlete an absolute expert on Psychology on Himself on Culture Languages and Acting

IRL

Michael Schumacher won so many races in F1 with Batman Level Crazy Preparation + Focus

When his mom died.. he did not break focus. He spent more time going over his car - already gone over hundreds of times before by the car crew - doing the same crazy prep he did before every race and kept the same focus on the track to win (and then he went to mourn his mon)

Schumacher at his peak when he was overtaking lol...

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Loved the art in that book thumb up

Do you have the page in which Venom tries to eat GR's arm?


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