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MrMind
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Ozymandias & Bullseye vs Deadpool & Comedian

who wins


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I don't know enough about Bullseye and Deadpool to comment there, but I'm not sure who I'd give the edge to between Ozy and Comedian...

They first fought in Before Watchmen, when Ozy was just starting off his superhero career and Blake was in his prime. They were "evenly matched" in h2h then -- Blake only gained the advantage because he 'cheated'. However, Ozy also stated that he allowed Blake to win so that he could get a feel for his fighting style and whatnot:
https://i.imgur.com/yXBcHJU.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/62z0QjA.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TRRsxvE.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NEQI1rS.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jK0F0gl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/RNTHTz3.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/EY8HACG.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/75xLfX3.jpg


They fought again in the original Watchmen series, but Blake didn't really appear to be fighting back and was later stated to be drunk at the time:
https://i.imgur.com/o8lXCU7.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Co2q3bY.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PIFgZRr.jpg


And they recently fought yet again in Doomsday Clock, but Ozy was essentially fighting with one arm while trying to protect Bubastis:
https://i.imgur.com/bRbWp1a.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/PCqFHy0.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/xBmvXu2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TaJmvow.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/MdbyMo3.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/t4Bk2G9.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/COhknGf.jpg


That being said, Ozy would probably be at a disadvantage here given the default starting distance of 0.5km, along with the fact that Blake has ranged weaponry(ie. multiple guns) as his standard equipment... There are still limits to Ozy's bullet-timing gimmick(even though he was dodging close-range gunfire in the above encounters.)


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^good stuff Galan

Ozy is superior I'm h2h, comedian has weapons

Overall I give ozy the edge during their encounter

Forgot to add stips
They fight in crowded part of Shanghai, starting distance 1000 meters
Both team are inside skyscrapers from the start, they have sniper rifle, explosives and machine guns with unlimited ammo


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Team 1. Deadpool plays too much, weak link


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Team 1. Deadpool plays too much, weak link


Deadpool has beaten Bullseye once or twice already, tho


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Deadpool has beaten Bullseye once or twice already, tho


Yeah deadpool is like 2 - 1 vs Bullseye


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It kinda depends what level DP's healing factor is at. I mean it's always good but some showings have him healing from gunshots in minutes, others instantly. Eventually he could wear them down, either through his healing or

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Originally posted by MrMind
Ozy is superior I'm h2h, comedian has weapons

Overall I give ozy the edge during their encounter
Probably, but it would still be close h2h. Blake is no slouch.


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I don't think it was specifically stated as to when their first fight took place. So does anyone have any educated guesses as to what year the first Comedian/Ozymandias fight happens?

Some say that the only reason Comedian won the first time was due to Veidt being young and inexperienced. But how young? I mean, if Veidt was in his mid 20's and blake was in his late 30's then the fight should have been more then fair. If anything blake Veidt should have have the advantage.


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Originally posted by LordGod
I don't think it was specifically stated as to when their first fight took place. So does anyone have any educated guesses as to what year the first Comedian/Ozymandias fight happens?

Some say that the only reason Comedian won the first time was due to Veidt being young and inexperienced. But how young? I mean, if Veidt was in his mid 20's and blake was in his late 30's then the fight should have been more then fair. If anything blake Veidt should have have the advantage.
Ozy started the crime fighting gig in "the closing months of 1958":
https://i.imgur.com/Xh3MJYx.jpg

Their first fight happened in September, 1959:
https://i.imgur.com/yTTglDC.jpg

So Ozy had only been at it for roughly 1 year before they fought. Flip side, Blake had already been in the game for 20 years by then(he was part of the original Minutemen team that was put together in 1939, remember.)


As for their ages at the time, Ozy was born in 1939:
https://i.imgur.com/NStIjmW.jpg

Blake was born in 1924:
https://i.imgur.com/p7QB4dX.jpg

So Ozy would have only been about 20, with very little practical experience. Blake would have been 35, with decadeS of experience.

That being said, the fact that they were still "evenly matched", with Ozy later stating that he allowed Blake to win that fight, says a lot about Ozy's abilities(and Blake's as well, given that Ozy was already immensely skilled at that point.)


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Originally posted by MrMind
Yeah deadpool is like 2 - 1 vs Bullseye


True but Bullseye has gotten progressively better ( especially damage soak) whereas Wade is sloppy recently. I think in a forum match they are really close with Wade only edging him out due to powers


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Originally posted by Galan007
Ozy started the crime fighting gig in "the closing months of 1958":
https://i.imgur.com/Xh3MJYx.jpg

Their first fight happened in September, 1959:
https://i.imgur.com/yTTglDC.jpg

So Ozy had only been at it for roughly 1 year before they fought. Flip side, Blake had already been in the game for 20 years by then(he was part of the original Minutemen team that was put together in 1939, remember.)


As for their ages at the time, Ozy was born in 1939:
https://i.imgur.com/NStIjmW.jpg

Blake was born in 1924:
https://i.imgur.com/p7QB4dX.jpg

So Ozy would have only been about 20, with very little practical experience. Blake would have been 35, with decadeS of experience.

That being said, the fact that they were still "evenly matched", with Ozy later stating that he allowed Blake to win that fight, says a lot about Ozy's abilities(and Blake's as well, given that Ozy was already immensely skilled at that point.)
Good stuff. Thanks. thumb up

So it does seem like Veidt at his peak should have been above Comedian for sure.thumb up


It also never occurred to me that Comedian was part of the minutemen roster. But wouldn't he have only been a teenager at the time? Doesn't seem like the time-line really ties together there, lol.


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Ozy & Com shouldn't be here, considering how overpowered Lester and Wade are.

quote: (post)
Originally posted by MrMind
Forgot to add stips
They fight in crowded part of Shanghai, starting distance 1000 meters
Both team are inside skyscrapers from the start, they have sniper rifle, explosives and machine guns with unlimited ammo


Lester can snipe people with a toothpick, lol.


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Originally posted by LordGod
Good stuff. Thanks. thumb up

So it does seem like Veidt at his peak should have been above Comedian for sure.thumb up

It also never occurred to me that Comedian was part of the minutemen roster. But wouldn't he have only been a teenager at the time? Doesn't seem like the time-line really ties together there, lol.
Ozy probably has the advantage in h2h, yes... But like I mentioned above, Blake would still make him work for it.

The timeline meshes just fine. Blake was 16 when he joined the Minutemen:
https://i.imgur.com/ImxPHDX.jpg

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Ozy & Com shouldn't be here, considering how overpowered Lester and Wade are.
Definitely seems that way. Only thing that *might* warrant Blake being here is the fact that he has guns and is an excellent marksmen... Though I don't know how much "help" that would even be against someone like Bullseye. /shrug

Deadpool vs. Bullseye and Ozy vs. Comedian should probably be their own separate threads, though.


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Deadpool vs. Bullseye and Ozy vs. Comedian should probably be their own separate threads, though.


Yes, I was about to say that.

Though I'm guessing MrMind was only trying to get people to post. Our versus threads need more flavors than the kryptonian one.


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Hey now.

We also have Wonder Man flavours


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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Ozy & Com shouldn't be here, considering how overpowered Lester and Wade are.



Lester can snipe people with a toothpick, lol.


I wouldn't call them non factor, since its street level battle


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True but Bullseye has gotten progressively better ( especially damage soak) whereas Wade is sloppy recently. I think in a forum match they are really close with Wade only edging him out due to powers
since when has Wade gotten sloppy? For the past few years, he's consistently fought at a much higher level than when he easily beat the crap out of Lester.


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Hey now.

We also have Wonder Man flavours


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That we do...

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I wouldn't call them non factor, since its street level battle


Lester and Wade are both elite streets & low metas.

Ozy and Com aren't.

You put them here just so they could hide behind the big boys from Marvel wink


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