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lawest9
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Rune King Thor vs Chaos War Hercules

Who wins?

Dec 18th, 2020 03:10 AM

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Herc ragestomps

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Dec 18th, 2020 03:15 AM

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RK Thor ragestomps

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lawest9
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Lol..........

Dec 18th, 2020 05:41 AM

Rage.Of.Olympus
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Hercules imo

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hercules imo

Who are you?

What have you done with Rage?

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Rage.Of.Olympus
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Lol, evidence is evidence. Hercules was a full on Multiversal entity rereading chaos war

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Dec 19th, 2020 04:48 AM

celeyhyga17
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Supergod Herc

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StiltmanFTW
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YOU TOO?!

What the hell is happening in this thread...?

I need to call Agent Dambo to sort it out.

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Dec 19th, 2020 05:18 AM

GalacticStorm
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Universe and multiverse are references that are incorrectly equated by some writers and used interchangeably.

Because a Marvel universe is itself multi-dimensional with each universe having multiple pocket dimensions attached to it (e.g. Negative Zone, Pantheon related realms, Hell dimensions, mystical realms etc) universes are erroneously called multiverses sometimes.

There are on panel examples of this.

With this in mind im not convinced that the Chaos King did actually devour most of the proper multiverse as opposed to just 616 and its associated pocket/side dimensions.

Now i could be wrong but where on panel did we see any alternate reality counterparts such as we did when Abraxas was causing actual multiversal havoc?

All we saw was 616 characters involved and characters from side dimensions associated with 616.

Furthermore, this Chaos King in the end was contained in an artificial universe.

If im wrong on this point and alternate realities were featured and alternate reality counterparts were involved and shown to be affected then please do let me know. Id love to know conclusively.

But i dont think we can take it as the multiverse "proper" when theres a history of the reference being used interchangably with universe and as far as i know theres no on panel depiction of anything beyond the 616 universe (and associated realms) being affected.

Thoughts?

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It was most definitely a universe only and rage has been corrected on it multiple times.

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GalacticStorm
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I wonder if a relationship between Knull and Oblivion will be revealed? Knull just seems light a lightweight Chaos King

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To recap. The Chaos King never destroyed any universes. All he ever destroyed was afterlives and various pocket dimensions.

The first domain he destroyed was that of the Pantheon of Zenn-La.

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Then he destroyed Impossible Man's domain.

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Then he destroyed the underworld.

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Then he destroyed the Dream Dimension.

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Then he destroyed the realms of the Earthly Pantheons.

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These are all the domains we see him attack in the original run and the spin-offs. There are no attacks on alternate Earths or timelines, the attacks are all confined to realms associated with the 616 Universe.

The main argument for the attack being multiversal is this quote by Amadeus Cho.

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The issue is that this describes the multiverse as finite, since percentages are fractions, which only applies to finite numbers.

It's clear from the context that Amadeus is talking about is the universe and the various realms associated with it.

In fact, when Hercules attained all-father status he was able to defeat the Chaos King.

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Athena even compares him to Zeus, after he defeated the Chaos King.

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At the end of the series Hercules refers to Amadeus' "multiverse" as the universe.

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The fact that Amadeus or Hercules refers to the 616 Universe as a multiverse means jack-shit, because they're not talking about the Marvel Multiverse, and this is made clear in the story. Of course, I'm fully aware of the fact that this won't stop fanboys from ripping panels out of context, ignore the story, and present their own headcanon of how Skyfathers are multiversal threats, and tell me that I'm just a hater.