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Zealot. Completely difderent level in terms of overall physical stats.


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Nope.

Not unless one of her rebooted/Nu52/wutever versions got some massive upgrades.

Also,

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...mid%
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wildstorm zealot got some crazy feats, a lot thanks to her weaponery though


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Nope.

Not unless one of her rebooted/Nu52/wutever versions got some massive upgrades.

Also,

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...mid%
3A77


Yeah, Zealot was about on Mids level judging by their fight. And I think Elektra could take Midnighter.


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Yeah, Zealot was about on Mids level judging by their fight. And I think Elektra could take Midnighter.


Despite his battle computer his fans no limit falicy to the heavens.


How would Elektra take current Midnighter?

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Nope.

Not unless one of her rebooted/Nu52/wutever versions got some massive upgrades.

Also,

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...mid%
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I still feel the same as I did then.


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Yeah, Zealot was about on Mids level judging by their fight. And I think Elektra could take Midnighter.


Despite his battle computer his fans no limit falicy to the heavens.

Yeah. I believe Zealot is an elite martial artist for sure, and I don't even have a problem with her winning here.

But I've been fighting against this myth that she's some class 50 bruiser for years now. It's based on two outlier showings: one from a writer error and another from her, iirc, 2nd appearance ever when her powerset wasn't totally defined. It'd be like saying Wolverine is class 100 because he knocked Hulk over. Zealot's physical stats aren't appreciably different from any other elite street/low meta martial artist.

At the very least, people aren't claiming she has some crazy healing factor or bringing up "Dark Mage" Zealot anymore. We've made progress.

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I still feel the same as I did then.

Cool. thumb up And I don't have a problem with Zealot winning.

It's just, to me, being on a "completely different level" of physical stats would make me think of Tomi Shishido or Temugin or something. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but I don't see Zealot beyond the typical elite H2H heros.

Pike, Nemesis, Sheba, Olympia, etc-- Zealot hasn't shown she's above them, and has even been embarrassed by some of them. I mean, she's been held dead-to-rights by a random student of hers before. Considering how fodder-y most Coda are, there's no real reason to assume she had crazy physical stats. She was obviously very skilled to beat Zealot like that, but not some physical monster.

Sarin was moreso the Coda that everyone envisioned Zealot as tbh, although it's difficult to separate her abilities from the suit/weaponry.

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Looks like Z will get a massive boost from the solicitations. Should be a good fight, we'll see.

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Yeah. It's a shame the Ellis re-launch of Wildcats ran into a snag, further impacted by COVID I imagine.

His reboot with The Wild Storm was really good, and I enjoyed the new take on the characters and world. I guess we'll have to settle for mainstream DC appearances of these characters until/if the hold up with Wildstorm gets sorted out.

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