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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
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Originally posted by Stoic
1. Which version of Magog rag-dolled Conner Kent? You know that this is important, because that same Magog was rag-dolled by Superman without an amplification. This is where you go scan and while either blatantly ignoring a ruling that you yourself pursued in order for us to have to announce the version of the Hulk. With Magog, it’s worse, because there are millions of them. Or, you’re being outright disingenuous. You choose the poison.

2. Hopefully we aren’t still under the impression that Rune King Thor was only a little bit more powerful than Odin. He wasn’t. If he fought Galactus it would be a no contest as he would unmake a well fed Galactus who in turn would trash the Infinity Man and Magog combined. The Infinty Man vs Rune King Thor was never a contest. RK Thor existed outside of the confines of both life and death, while the New Gods are connected to life through the Source. Not even Mxy would hold dominion over him as he was the runes themselves. I’ve tried explaining this to you guys for the longest. Punches, kicks, and universal explosions would be less than a summer breeze as he transcended the physical sphere. This is not a consultation from CharGPT, however if you lack understanding, you can ask the AI to explain exactly what it meant when it said that he transcended the veil. At that moment he became untouchable. His omniscience translated to more than you realized. He had full access to a power greater than the Infinity Stones combined. Huh, what? Yeah, well the runes themselves are an infinite source of mystical power that is hampered only by the possessors intellect. Because he died, he and the Runes became one. This is far different than what Odin went through.

Then again you can go back to believing that Conner is capable of ducking it out with an Avengers team of Thor, Scarlet Witch, Iron Man, Wonder Man, Vision, Captain America, and Hawkeye. He wouldn’t beat Thor alone.

You guys inflate a character due to their highs while pretending other characters have not done the same. Conner can scale to Blue Marvel when the writers place his performance under extreme conditions up to that tier, but then casually forget that Spider Man has defeated classic Juggernaut and Firelord. Should we then conclude that Spider-Man is a low to mid herald? He scaled to that level while classic Thor a high herald has scaled to mid cosmic.

This isn’t the first time that I’ve had to remind this forum of these types of things which is called plot armor. Batman survive continental strength by not only surviving getting his head slammed through cement by Wonder Woman. Is he more than what DC has always said that he was? No he isn’t. Captain America KO’s Hulk. Is he a transcendent Herald despite repeatedly being tagged as peak human to low super human? Of course not. They will continue to call him peak human. Conner can scale to herald, while a herald can scale to cosmic. This is why Blue Marvel would destroy him. This is common sense, and to argue anything other than this is when you’ve decided to be disingenuous believing somewhere inside of you that I would fall for this. This is when you tell me that you do not respect my intelligence and that is when I tell you that I do not respect you.

So, which Magog was it? They have differing levels but most of the time they operate at the mid herald level. This means that they can scale a few tiers higher in extreme cases or whenever the writers want to sell a good story. Like I said, a non amplified Superman used his face as farm equipment after he rag-dolled Conner, who was way over his head. Blue Marvel solo’s Pagan. You can pretend that Pagan was weaksauce, but then I’ll tell you that the team of Avengers that he dogged would beat some of the most powerful hero’s in DC.

King Hyperion being two pieced was a solid indication that Blue Marvel actually scales above High Herald. Pagan was a clear indication of this as well. King Hyperion had regular Hyperion fight for his life, who compared his ferocity to Gladiator’s. Most iterations of Hyperion are mid to high heralds and are able to contend with or outright overwhelm classic Thor who was a Celestial buster.

I told you guys that the Starbrand was far more than a high herald which was ignored, until he later defeated 2 or 3 Abstracts alone. But yeah he’s Hal Jordan level despite yawning in a battle against Thro, Hulk, and Hyperion. Hal loses badly to non amped Superman, who is a high herald.

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Dude, its your thread. You tell us which version is in it.