Hmm, I'm on your ignore list so you can't read this anyways, but I'll go ahead and pick on your spelling and grammar regardless.DR I am atheist so I don't believe in Heaven or Hell, nor in Purgatory.DR Interesting thought, that some people believe in Heaven and Hell, I'd never heard that one before. Where'd you hear that interesting tidbit, I wonder, Fox News maybe? Well, good luck in school and hopefully if you graduate you might go to college.DR
*turns "cruelty" switch to off position*DR
Hmmm, from my understanding there is no mention in the Bible or "official" Christian text that says that purgatory or limbo actually exist, they were literary constructs of authors such as Dante. As such there is, if you believe, probably, only heaven and hell (although some new age Christians are saying even hell is more metaphorical then real)
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Hmmm, from my understanding there is no mention in the Bible or "official" Christian text that says that purgatory or limbo actually exist, they were literary constructs of authors such as Dante. As such there is, if you believe, probably, only heaven and hell (although some new age Christians are saying even hell is more metaphorical then real)
I'm fairly certain it was created by the Catholic church as a method of propaganda and fund raising. In the middle ages the church would actually sell you little trinkets that were meant to reduce your time in pergatory. So, the more money you gave to the church, the less time you had to spend paying for your sins. Of course, you cold also buy your way out of hell.
People are such sheep.
Sorry guys I look everywhere in the dictionary so I could spell the word right could not find it.I even looked in a old bible that we had.Anyway a friend of mine said that it could be found in a section called Maccabees!
If anyone has a bible at home let me know if you want to look there if it says anything about there being a place between heaven and hell.
It kind of makes sences.I mean if you are good they say you go to heaven and if you are bad you go to hell.What what if you are good but not ready to go to heaven yet?There has to be a part that is actly part of heaven but not called heaven you go until you are pure enough to go to heaven.
And no I am not thirsty!lol!jm
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
I'm fairly certain it was created by the Catholic church as a method of propaganda and fund raising. In the middle ages the church would actually sell you little trinkets that were meant to reduce your time in pergatory. So, the more money you gave to the church, the less time you had to spend paying for your sins. Of course, you cold also buy your way out of hell.People are such sheep.
oh for the love of... doh not everyone who follows the teaching of a church is a sheep. You people who dont believe in God or get some kind of kick out of flaming people who do need to seriously get over yourselves. You dont believe and some of us do. SO WHAT? You do your thing and the rest of us can do our own thing. I personally dont give a rats ASS who believes in God but Id like to be able to have that belief myself without being flamed for it. Im not going around recruiting people to my faith cause I just feel thats not my JOB. I dont CARE if you believe. We all are on our own because religion is a deeply personal thing, and I for the life of me do NOT understand why atheists and Christians cant just live together in peace.
And for the record people not familiar with the Catholic doctrine on these things shouldnt be attempting to define them
Purgatory: (Lat., "purgare", to make clean, to purify) in accordance with Catholic teaching is a place or condition of temporal punishment for those who, departing this life in God's grace, are, not entirely free from venial faults, or have not fully paid the satisfaction due to their transgressions.
Limbo: In theological usage the name is applied to (a) the temporary place or state of the souls of the just who, although purified from sin, were excluded from the beatific vision until Christ's triumphant ascension into Heaven (the "limbus patrum"😉; or (b) to the permanent place or state of those unbaptized children and others who, dying without grievous personal sin, are excluded from the beatific vision on account of original sin alone (the "limbus infantium" or "puerorum"😉
Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
oh for the love of... doh not everyone who follows the teaching of a church is a sheep. You people who dont believe in God or get some kind of kick out of flaming people who do need to seriously get over yourselves. You dont believe and some of us do. SO WHAT? You do your thing and the rest of us can do our own thing. I personally dont give a rats ASS who believes in God but Id like to be able to have that belief myself without being flamed for it. Im not going around recruiting people to my faith cause I just feel thats not my JOB. I dont CARE if you believe. We all are on our own because religion is a deeply personal thing, and I for the life of me do NOT understand why atheists and Christians cant just live together in peace.And for the record people not familiar with the Catholic doctrine on these things shouldnt be attempting to define them
That post is Pure Gold! Man! about time somebody said that. Nicely put Jedi Priestess. 👆
Originally posted by yerssot
for the record, Purgatory was invented at the end of the 15th, begin of the 16th century to raise funds for the pope in Rome for his ...what-ever the english name is of that buildingIt is one of the main reasons Luther placed his ideas on the churchdoor in Wittenberg in 1517
I knew I heard that before...
JP...👆 awesome post.
Originally posted by yerssot
for the record, Purgatory was invented at the end of the 15th, begin of the 16th century to raise funds for the pope in Rome for his ...what-ever the english name is of that building
I believe the question was what is purgatory and do you believe in it? How it was invented has nothing to do with how it's practiced per se by the Catholic church yerssie. 😛