Heaven's "Hierarchy"

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Heaven's "Hierarchy"

Okay, here is how I imagine it. Of course, I don't know if there even is God and if there is, does heaven have hierarchy but here is it:

1. God
2. Archangel Michael (First being ever created, leader of the army of Heaven.)
3. Jesus (?)
4. Various angels after this, perhaps Gabriel or somebody else.
10. St. Peter (Holds the keys to the gate of heaven)

Jesus and the Holy ghost, should be, according to the chrisitans, nr 2 and 3

^ Not all Christians..some believe they all exist as one entity, like for an example and egg has 3 parts..the shell, the white, and the yoke.

So it would be:

God (all 3) or
Jesus
holy spirit
(not sure on the order of Jesus and the HS)
archangels, which includes Gabriel
other angels
fallen angels - which all act in the invisible principalities and powers that are all around us.

hmm aint jesus suppose to sit by gods right hand

He's the image of the invisible god. Who knows what "sitting by Gods right hand." actually means. It might not mean He's actually sitting down.

Re: Heaven's "Hierarchy"

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Okay, here is how I imagine it. Of course, I don't know if there even is God and if there is, does heaven have hierarchy but here is it:

1. God
2. Archangel Michael (First being ever created, leader of the army of Heaven.)
3. Jesus (?)
4. Various angels after this, perhaps Gabriel or somebody else.
10. St. Peter (Holds the keys to the gate of heaven)

Do you really how the Bible controdicts itself. Archangel Michael was the first being ever created? He's never mentioned in the book of Genesis when God created everything in 6 days. Adam is said to be the first being created. Weird, eh?

Maybe Adam and this universe was just the latest things created. I believe He's been up to something before we came along. And probably after too..

Re: Re: Heaven's "Hierarchy"

Originally posted by Reborn Again
Do you really how the Bible controdicts itself. Archangel Michael was the first being ever created? He's never mentioned in the book of Genesis when God created everything in 6 days. Adam is said to be the first being created. Weird, eh?

Well, actually, the animals were the first.

And didn't there were an angel who drove them away from Eden?

Re: Re: Heaven's "Hierarchy"

Originally posted by Reborn Again
Do you really how the Bible controdicts itself. Archangel Michael was the first being ever created? He's never mentioned in the book of Genesis when God created everything in 6 days. Adam is said to be the first being created. Weird, eh?

Adam was the first man created and where in the bible does it say the order in which angels were created?

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Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Well, actually, the animals were the first.

And didn't there were an angel who drove them away from Eden?

As far as I know, all angels were created at the same time and it was before earth or man was created.

Archangel Michael is referred to as the greatest of all angels in writings throughout the world, including Jewish, Christian and Islamic..

Well, by this I just thought that he was the first Angel created. Maybe I am wrong.

(this is from memory, so I may be slightly wrong...)

God
Seraphim, Cherubim, Thrones (the First Circle..)
Dominions, Powers, Virtues (the Second Circle...)
Principalities, Archangels, Angels (the Third Circle..)

depending on whether or not you are a Trinitarian, Jesus and the Holy Spirit rank equal with God or just below.... these listings are those decided upon by the Pseudo-Areopagite in "Hierarchica Celesti," and are based, if I remember correctly, on readings of the Old Testament and Colossians 1:16....

How about:

God
Angels (Lead by Gabriel)
Jesus Christ
Galactus

?

Originally posted by debbiejo
He's the image of the invisible god. Who knows what "sitting by Gods right hand." actually means. It might not mean He's actually sitting down.

Who knows what any of it means. The bible was originally written in ancient hebrew (which hardly anything is known about) into arabic, greek, latin, back and forth through so many languages that the meanings and stories probabley have changed hundreds of times.

The Torah, original first 5 books of the Bible, has stayed exactly the same.

Originally posted by debbiejo
The Torah, original first 5 books of the Bible, has stayed exactly the same.

except when it was edited.....

Originally posted by big gay kirk
except when it was edited.....

I don't think it was edited, was it?

The Bible has been edited almost since it was first written down... in fact, if you read any of the more popular versions of the first five books of the Bible, you will find them to be different in many ways, some of these due to (for instance) the text being a modernisation of a transliteration of an English translation of a Greek book translated and transliterated from hebrew.... for example, where the original hebrew would say "In the beginning the Gods created the sky and the earth..." we now seem to have " in the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth..."

We need a Jewish person here!!! Hello!!! Calling Jewish people..

I've never heard that "In the beginning the Gods created the sky and earth." I'll have to do a study on that.. 📖

You guys should really checkout Clarence Larkin; his books deal with this topic and more.

The books I own are:

The Dispensational Truth
The book Of Revelation
The book Of Daniel
The Spirit World
Rightly Dividing The Word
The Second Coming Of Christ.

They are very interesting reads to say the least, Plus they have fully detailed maps about the Bibles various topics.

http://www.armageddonbooks.com/larkin.html
http://www.biblebelievers.com/larkin/larkin_rightly-dividing.html

Charts:
http://members.citynet.net/morton/charts.htm
http://www.blueletterbible.org/study/larkin/

EDIT:

Another Great author would be John Dominic Crossan.

I have his book The Birth Of Christianity (653 pages long). Detailed reading but worth it in the end. 😄