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Why Prayers Aren't Answered.

Been reading a new book, The Isaiah Effect. It discusses how the changes in editing the scriptures in the 4th century changed much of the meanings of what should of been conveyed. There were so many changes that whole ideas were lost, and until the Dead Sea Scrolls, historian and theologians were not aware of much of it. They knew they had been edited because the "whole" was found in the jars and scrolls.

One interesting thing that was found was about prayer...

The phrase: Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it to you.
Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask and ye shall receive, That your joy my be full.

Now..How times have we asked in prayer and we have not gotten it?
It seems that God does NOT answer most prayers...WHY?

The original re translation in Aramaic version:

All things that you ask straightly, directly...from inside my name, you will be given. So far you have not done this. Ask without hidden motive and be SURROUNDED BY YOUR ANSWER. Be enveloped by what you desire, that your gladness be full.

What the authors of the book has found doing much research is that the reason that our prayers aren't answered is because we are only speaking words that have no power..Looking at the original sources we are missing some aspects of prayer....in short, we need to speak it, feel its outcome with as many of our 5 senses as we can and accept that it has happened... For example, if you were going to pray for rain..You'd imagine what the rain feels like on your skin, what it smells like, what it feels like to walk in the muddy road, how the crops would grow with the rain, how the air would taste, and then thanks God for the opportunity of asking and believing it to be so....BTW, the rain story was confirmed and later that day, they did get rain in a long drought area...

And you never say things like. Please give me...You say instead...Thank you that I have...You state it as a fact and in the present that you already have it, and give thanks for it...

It's funny cause in metaphyicics it's called "The law of attraction"..You attract what you believe...If you believe you "don't have" then you'll attract the same...

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Why Prayers Aren't Answered Because it is a one way comunication

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Sometimes the answer is just 'no'.


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some of the things we pray for one can be garantied that it would not be good
some of gods gratest gifts are unanswered prayers

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Prayers are answered, ALWAYS. But sometimes we don't get the answer we want, or hear the answer we recieve.


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Sometimes the answer is just 'no'.


Then it seems that the answer is no alot! OR, we just aren't getting our questions through...And if so, we're not hearing the answers..It's not always a voice you no.

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Why Prayers Aren't Answered Because it is a one way comunication


Plug in your phone


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Then it seems that the answer is no alot! OR, we just aren't getting our questions through...And if so, we're not hearing the answers..It's not always a voice you no.

You forgot 'wait'.


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And OK..wait, but you usually don't have to wait long...It's more important to LISTEN...It may be a conversation you over heard, something on the radio, something you've read, a dream, a friends words, a fragrance that brings back a memory, the thoughts that go through your head as you watch the trees sway...all are Gods words.

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Prayers are answered, ALWAYS
laughing out loud laughing out loud yeah right
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no one at the receiving end

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Why Prayers Aren't Answered.


Because there is no one to hear them...


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Originally posted by debbiejo
Been reading a new book, The Isaiah Effect. It discusses how the changes in editing the scriptures in the 4th century changed much of the meanings of what should of been conveyed. There were so many changes that whole ideas were lost, and until the Dead Sea Scrolls, historian and theologians were not aware of much of it. They knew they had been edited because the "whole" was found in the jars and scrolls.

One interesting thing that was found was about prayer...

The phrase: Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it to you.
Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask and ye shall receive, That your joy my be full.

Now..How times have we asked in prayer and we have not gotten it?
It seems that God does NOT answer most prayers...WHY?

The original re translation in Aramaic version:

All things that you ask straightly, directly...from inside my name, you will be given. So far you have not done this. Ask without hidden motive and be SURROUNDED BY YOUR ANSWER. Be enveloped by what you desire, that your gladness be full.

What the authors of the book has found doing much research is that the reason that our prayers aren't answered is because we are only speaking words that have no power..Looking at the original sources we are missing some aspects of prayer....in short, we need to speak it, feel its outcome with as many of our 5 senses as we can and accept that it has happened... For example, if you were going to pray for rain..You'd imagine what the rain feels like on your skin, what it smells like, what it feels like to walk in the muddy road, how the crops would grow with the rain, how the air would taste, and then thanks God for the opportunity of asking and believing it to be so....BTW, the rain story was confirmed and later that day, they did get rain in a long drought area...

And you never say things like. Please give me...You say instead...Thank you that I have...You state it as a fact and in the present that you already have it, and give thanks for it...

It's funny cause in metaphyicics it's called "The law of attraction"..You attract what you believe...If you believe you "don't have" then you'll attract the same...


And your point is?jm confused


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My point is I just explained how to pray to get answers.. reading

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The main reason prayers aren't answered is, I believe, this.... the Judaeo-Christian god, far from being all powerful, is simply one of many palestinian deities.... as such, he has more power in his homeland than anywhere else.... a god's power is based on the number of believers, and the amount of actual belief each believer has in him/her.... as such, we find the Judaeo -Christian god stretched very thinly over a lot of half hearted "believers..." is it any wonder prayers aren't answered.... he even gave himself a get-out clause, when he promised Noah that he wouldn't interfere anymore.... our gods have never promised to anwser our prayers... they only do so if they think it in their best interest.... and they tend to favour people who don't ask them to sort stuff out, but try to do it themselves... but then our gods have never tried to claim omnipotence....


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Yes, I am right. wink


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God doesn't assume an active role in the daily mill of universal occurrences.

Laws and forces were designed and created to keep an evolving order and balance. So genius and intelligent god is that it created something that would live and adapt without any further personal interaction or input required of its creator.

Our minds cannot possibly fathom the actuality of that which is "god". I dont really think such an inhuman entity has any interest in our trivial human lives.


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God doesn't assume an active role in the daily mill of universal occurrences.

Laws and forces were designed and created to keep an evolving order and balance. So genius and intelligent god is that it created something that would live and adapt without any further personal interaction or input required of its creator.

Our minds cannot possibly fathom the actuality of that which is "god". I dont really think such an inhuman entity has any interest in our trivial human lives.

Then what would be the point in creating us?


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who said we were created?

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OK, then we evolved from a cosmic thought!

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Then what would be the point in creating us?


You want to know what the meaning of life is. Dont we all.


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