No, it does not.
Acts 13:48When the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord; and as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.
Ephesians 1:4-5Just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him In love, He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will…
Jude 1:4For certain persons have crept in unnoticed, those who were long beforehand marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who turn the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.
Romans 8:29-30For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified.
Romans 9:11-22For though the twins were not yet born and had not done anything good or bad, so that God's purpose according to His choice would stand, not because of works but because of Him who calls, it was said to her, "THE OLDER WILL SERVE THE YOUNGER."
Just as it is written, "JACOB I LOVED, BUT ESAU I HATED."
What shall we say then? There is no injustice with God, is there? May it never be!
For He says to Moses, "I WILL HAVE MERCY ON WHOM I HAVE MERCY, AND I WILL HAVE COMPASSION ON WHOM I HAVE COMPASSION."
So then it does not depend on the man who wills or the man who runs, but on God who has mercy.
For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "FOR THIS VERY PURPOSE I RAISED YOU UP, TO DEMONSTRATE MY POWER IN YOU, AND THAT MY NAME MIGHT BE PROCLAIMED THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE EARTH."
So then He has mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom He desires.
You will say to me then, "Why does He still find fault? For who resists His will?"
On the contrary, who are you, O man, who answers back to God? The thing molded will not say to the molder, "Why did you make me like this," will it?
Or does not the potter have a right over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for common use?
What if God, although willing to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction?
2 Thessalonians 2:11-12For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness.
2 Timothy 1:9Who has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was granted us in Christ Jesus from all eternity…
You can't fight fate, fate is something imbeled into the universe, it go's beyond us. But we still have free-will, we can change the little things, and it's the little things that makeup life.
Ultimately though do we WANT to defy the will of God? Because frankly wouldn't He know best? But like a parent to a child, sometimes pride or curiosity gets the best of us, we got to learn for ourselves and not blame anyone but ourselves for whatever good or bad happens because of doing something outside God's will.. We are responsible for our own descisions, God just gives us a general guideline because He's the parent figure..
Originally posted by golem370
I like this Quote every religious person is a Atheist the only difference is I believe in one less god then you.
"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." - Stephen Roberts
I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore CHOOSE life, that both thou and thy seed may live: [ Deuteronomy 30:19 ]
And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, CHOOSE you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD. [ Joshua 24:15 ]
A FREE WILL TO CHOOSE LIFE OR DEATH!
A FREE WILL TO CHOOSE, WHOM TO SERVE!
Originally posted by svnthdysthsbbth
I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and CHOSE that in which I delighted not. [ Isaiah 66:4 ]Choosing evil, he doesn't delight in.
Also says god made EVERYTHING for his pleasure...
I'm an idiot.....................................aint gonna argue that statement
I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and CHOSE that in which I delighted not. [ Isaiah 66:4 ]you must be really really bored
Re: Does it not say in the bible that god gave man free will?
Originally posted by golem370lets see, God gave us free will, therefor Lucifer had a chose, just like all of us. We can chose to obay God or we can chose to not. simpla as that
What free will do he have? If he already knows everything and If he is all seeing why did he not stop lucifer be for he left heaven. Or maybe he wanted him to leave.
Originally posted by WondererMan does to have an effact on history. we can change what happens in the area we are in(true we could change the path of hurricane Katrina, but those in New Orleans could of atles tryed to get away
With or without a god, free will does not exist. We are not really in control of anything - the solid nature of existence itself is in control of everything. Like Tolstoy said: man has no effect on history...or something to that effect.