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Zeal Ex Nihilo
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"Salvation is based off of faith."

"Judgment is based off of works."

I heard that tonight.

So, tell me: what would you rather have?

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Sep 2nd, 2006 04:54 AM

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well...salvation and judgement are two different things.

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Excellent thread.

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why...because it hasn't been discussed in 14 others?

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well...salvation and judgement are two different things.

That is correct. Pick one.

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That is correct. Pick one.

Sep 2nd, 2006 05:03 AM

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That is correct. Pick one.

Its your thread...you have the honor.

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Its your thread...you have the honor.

It's not my choice to make--at least for you. I've picked salvation.

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Sep 2nd, 2006 05:11 AM

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Salvation is not a principle that has any meaning to me. I find it to be a fictional concept.

If it does exist, it should be based solely on works..

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Salvation is not a principle that has any meaning to me. I find it to be a fictional concept.

If it does exist, it should be based solely on works..

Like I said, judgment is based off of works:

Are you worthy, or are you not? Do you deserve life or death?

Salvation just is.

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or it is not.

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Re: "Salvation is based off of faith."

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"Judgment is based off of works."

I heard that tonight.

So, tell me: what would you rather have?

Use some scriptural reference that supports the idea that both will not be present. Salvation and judgement will occur.

All sinners will be judged by God, and all sin. There is no means by which one will not be judged.

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Romans 14:10
10 ...we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

Rom. 2: 12
12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;

Rom. 3: 9, 23
9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
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23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Rom. 5: 12
12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

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Re: "Salvation is based off of faith."

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"Judgment is based off of works."

I heard that tonight.

So, tell me: what would you rather have?

I would have to say judgement based off works rather than salvation based off of faith...

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I would have to say judgement based off works rather than salvation based off of faith...

Well, then it is obvious that you either don't know the Bible or you just choose to disbelieve the Bible.

Sep 2nd, 2006 07:42 PM

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Well, then it is obvious that you either don't know the Bible or you just choose to disbelieve the Bible.

Excuse me but this topic is about what you would rather have not what is written down in some stupid book. I happen to believe that your place in the afterlife should be determined based on what kind of a person you are not what religion you believe in.

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You really shouldn't be so obvious, sock.

I especially like how you enter every pro-christian thread and start to act like the expert in the room. You can be retarded arrogant in your own threads, but it's poor form to do so in someone elses thread

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According to the Bible "Works and Judgment" go hand in hand. YOU are known for your works and that is what your judgment is based on..your fruits.

So, are your fruits more important in the eye of god, or your work of acceptance? Because there are many people that produce fruits that have not accepted Jesus as a Savior.

Sep 2nd, 2006 08:32 PM

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This whole you must my a Christian thing is in there...but its over-emphasied in many modern forms of Christianity, namely the extremist branches.

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Well, then it is obvious that you either don't know the Bible or you just choose to disbelieve the Bible.

Idiot.....This is what the Bible says:

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Romans 14:10
10 ...we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

Rom. 2: 12
12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;

Rom. 3: 9, 23
9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
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23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Rom. 5: 12
12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

Thanks Regret, for putting some INTELLIGENCE back in the religion forums where it is sorely lacking.....you give me a better representation of Christians than JIA ever could....

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I happen to believe that your place in the afterlife should be determined based on what kind of a person you are not what religion you believe in.

I agree.

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