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For everyone who calls themself a Christian...

**Disclaimer**Please, this question is for Christians only. In the past, I have often gotten in debates on sites such as Myspace with other enlighten individuals and some responses I found great value in and of course, there were those who probably should have just ignored the topic at hand. If you want to curse, please, show some honor and self-control as I am not attacking anyone here, but, I just want an honest question. Love this world, love the imperfections of men, science, lust, money, family, friends, all good and bad, whatever they may be. But, I do not personally have any desire to argue why you shouldn't and I think we all can agree in everyone having the free will to choose the path that is right for them! 1 LUV!

I notice a poll by JesusisAlive and it compelled me to ask Christians a question. I do not refer myself as a Christian or any label but a bond servant of Christ. So for anyone wondering, yes, I do follow the teaching of Christ as it has become my own personal testimony. But, for those who claim that they believe they are going to heaven, I am wondering why do you believe that you are saved? Have you are received the Holy Spirit or are you just answering "Yes" as it has become quite a cliche answer for believers to say. I ask because the road is narrow and there are many among us to walk the broad path. There are those who partake in things of this world with desire in their hearts when if you truly believe you are an elect of God, you would have no love for anything of this world knowing everything of value will eventually fade. So not to wonder from the purpose of my topic, again, for those who are Believers, why do you believe you are saved? Keep in mind, the word of God is eternal, it does not sway to the left or to the right nor does it adapt to the changes of society as what is considered to be sin is quite common and goes unrepented. So please, think hard before answering this question. Thanks! 1 LUV!

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blink Ok, so what are you asking??

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I have often gotten in debates on sites such as Myspace with other enlighten individuals


Biggest mistake right there.


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With all do respect, Shakyamunison, I do not follow religion nor believe in it. My path is my faith. But, I do not me to leave out anyone of other religions either, but, the desire of my topic is representation from Christians. I do not have the authority to stop you or anyone else from replying though. I agreed, Dusty, as i have found it to be in vain and not in edifciation of my brothers and sister so I no longer to it. But, Quiero Mota, my question is a followup to the "Are you going to heaven" poll. And that follow up is why? I have no desire to argue with any of those answers nor really to reply, it was just something that was missing that I was compelled to ask. And if one soul hesitates, it may very well help them!

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Originally posted by silk4life
**Disclaimer**Please, this question is for Christians only. In the past, I have often gotten in debates on sites such as Myspace with other enlighten individuals and some responses I found great value in and of course, there were those who probably should have just ignored the topic at hand. If you want to curse, please, show some honor and self-control as I am not attacking anyone here, but, I just want an honest question. Love this world, love the imperfections of men, science, lust, money, family, friends, all good and bad, whatever they may be. But, I do not personally have any desire to argue why you shouldn't and I think we all can agree in everyone having the free will to choose the path that is right for them! 1 LUV!

I notice a poll by JesusisAlive and it compelled me to ask Christians a question. I do not refer myself as a Christian or any label but a bond servant of Christ. So for anyone wondering, yes, I do follow the teaching of Christ as it has become my own personal testimony. But, for those who claim that they believe they are going to heaven, I am wondering why do you believe that you are saved? Have you are received the Holy Spirit or are you just answering "Yes" as it has become quite a cliche answer for believers to say. I ask because the road is narrow and there are many among us to walk the broad path. There are those who partake in things of this world with desire in their hearts when if you truly believe you are an elect of God, you would have no love for anything of this world knowing everything of value will eventually fade. So not to wonder from the purpose of my topic, again, for those who are Believers, why do you believe you are saved? Keep in mind, the word of God is eternal, it does not sway to the left or to the right nor does it adapt to the changes of society as what is considered to be sin is quite common and goes unrepented. So please, think hard before answering this question. Thanks! 1 LUV!


Umm..[SPOILER - highlight to read]: Urizen - at least if you're going to create multiple socks to profess this non - religious agenda, stick to one for a little..and pick a better name next time too..He..He..


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Yawn. Sock or not, I feel like answering the question.
I do not know if I am going to Heaven. No one knows if they are going to Heaven or not. All one can do (assuming they are Christian or whatever, blahty blah) is live their life the best they can and hope that they have pleased God. In my opinion, anyone who when asked tells you that they're going to Heaven, is very very arrogant, and thus commiting the sin of pride. Which probably wouldn't land you in Heaven anyway. Go figure.


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Yawn. Sock or not, I feel like answering the question.
I do not know if I am going to Heaven. No one knows if they are going to Heaven or not. All one can do (assuming they are Christian or whatever, blahty blah) is live their life the best they can and hope that they have pleased God. In my opinion, anyone who when asked tells you that they're going to Heaven, is very very arrogant, and thus commiting the sin of pride. Which probably wouldn't land you in Heaven anyway. Go figure.


No one can be for certain in themselves(or in their own abilities) But they can be for certain about Christ - and the truth of his word. If one truly believes in Christ, his sacrifice, that he is the son of God, and lovingly(and faithfully) follows his word - then they will go to heaven. So asserting onself as going to heaven because of Christ is in no way arrogant nor is it prideful, since one is demonstrating faith in him(not themselves) - which he gracefully asks all of his servants to do.


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No one can be for certain in themselves(or in their own abilities) But they can be for certain about Christ - and the truth of his word. If one truly believes in Christ, his sacrifice, that he is the son of God, and lovingly(and faithfully) follows his word - then they will go to heaven. So asserting onself as going to heaven because of Christ is in no way arrogant nor is it prideful, since one is demonstrating faith in him(not themselves) - which he gracefully asks all of his servants to do.


One can't have total belief in God, it's pretty much impossible. There is always that fragment of doubt no matter how devout you are. It's like one bible thing about having as much faith as a mustard seed, you'd be able to command a tree to cast itself into the sea.
It is not prideful to say that you believe in God and Jesus, etc. etc.
But I think it is prideful to say that you are so holy that you are certain you'll be going to Heaven.


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With all do respect, Shakyamunison, I do not follow religion nor believe in it. My path is my faith.


Oh the humanity.

I find something rather... propagaderish in those situations where people claim "Oh, I'm not a Christian. I don't follow a religion. No, I'm a follower of Jesus."

So much quibbling in order to claim to be somehow exceptional and separate from the profusion of other religions. When in reality, by definition, a Christian, and member of religion, is exactly what you are, sock or no or whatever.

Seriously, I have seen a lot of it in recent times. It is like the new black of religious arguments.


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black of religious arguments.


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black of religious arguments.


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You know the fashion saying "purple polka-dots are the new black" or something like that.

Kind of the in thing. And that is what it is - certain Christians (and I say Christians because I have never seen a Buddhist or Hindu say it) have this whole "Religion isn't what we follow, it's God. So we aren't religious, we are true followers of Jesus." Kind of thing - despite by definition still being a part of a religion, usually following some definable doctrine etc.


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Re: For everyone who calls themself a Christian...

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Originally posted by silk4life
**Disclaimer**Please, this question is for Christians only. In the past, I have often gotten in debates on sites such as Myspace with other enlighten individuals and some responses I found great value in and of course, there were those who probably should have just ignored the topic at hand. If you want to curse, please, show some honor and self-control as I am not attacking anyone here, but, I just want an honest question. Love this world, love the imperfections of men, science, lust, money, family, friends, all good and bad, whatever they may be. But, I do not personally have any desire to argue why you shouldn't and I think we all can agree in everyone having the free will to choose the path that is right for them! 1 LUV!

I notice a poll by JesusisAlive and it compelled me to ask Christians a question. I do not refer myself as a Christian or any label but a bond servant of Christ. So for anyone wondering, yes, I do follow the teaching of Christ as it has become my own personal testimony. But, for those who claim that they believe they are going to heaven, I am wondering why do you believe that you are saved? Have you are received the Holy Spirit or are you just answering "Yes" as it has become quite a cliche answer for believers to say. I ask because the road is narrow and there are many among us to walk the broad path. There are those who partake in things of this world with desire in their hearts when if you truly believe you are an elect of God, you would have no love for anything of this world knowing everything of value will eventually fade. So not to wonder from the purpose of my topic, again, for those who are Believers, why do you believe you are saved? Keep in mind, the word of God is eternal, it does not sway to the left or to the right nor does it adapt to the changes of society as what is considered to be sin is quite common and goes unrepented. So please, think hard before answering this question. Thanks! 1 LUV!

"..but the righteous into life eternal." Matthew 25:46
John 3:16 for one of course.
"He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life" John 3:36
"He that heareth My word and believeth on Hin That sent Me hath everlasting life and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life." John 5:24
"He that believeth on Me hath (possesseth) everlasting life." John 6:47
"...so that he that eateth Me, even he shall live through Me" John 6:57
"Verily, verily I say unto you, If a man keep my word, he shall never see death." John 8:51

That's just the start.

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You know the fashion saying "purple polka-dots are the new black" or something like that.
Oh ok.......
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answer: I know i'm going to heaven. I believe in Christ, accepted Him as my Lord and Saviour, and have a personal relationship with him. Its by faith, not religion. its a relationship with the Lord, not a religion. big difference.

Sure, I'm a sinner. I know that. but i repent my sins to God, and He forgives them. *ends answer*

that good enough?


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That wasn't very original.

I know. Your point?

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answer: I know i'm going to heaven. I believe in Christ, accepted Him as my Lord and Saviour, and have a personal relationship with him. Its by faith, not religion. its a relationship with the Lord, not a religion. big difference.

Sure, I'm a sinner. I know that. but i repent my sins to God, and He forgives them. *ends answer*

that good enough?


Yup, that was perfect Jaeh. smile


Amazing, only 15 and yet she gets what so many "religious" people don't.





And for Imperial Samauri, you don't have to like it, but there are plenty of Chistians out there (meaning simply believers in Christ) who are making a concious effort not to get caught up in dogma, or rules and traditions, i.e. "RELIGION", but rather to let the Lord lead them in their lives.

I said it before, and I'll say it again:

I don't have a "religion", meaning I don't follow pracitices and routines "just because"....

I have a relationship with my God.

He speaks to me, he answers my prayers, he blesses me, and heals friends and family members. (of many things, not just disease)

I follow what the Lord wants for me, not what some religion dictates.



If that line of thinking bothers you, it's probably because of the focus on interaction with a real God that you believe isn't real.


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