Mary Madgeline- Perhaps the Most Loyal Disciple ?

Like I stated before in a post in the Mary Born Without Original Sin Thread, why was the role of Mary Magdeline diminished throughout Christian Tradition?

Why are the 12 Disciples given more credit for active roles in Jesus' life, when Mary Magdeline actually had a far larger role.

Mary Magdeline never doubted, or denied Christ. EVER. All the Disciples denied him, or doubted him, at one point or another, one even betrayed him.

yet, Mary never doubted him, not even for a second. When the Disciples (well most of them) were absent during Christ's crucifixion, she was there, watching, walking with him, crying, suffering.

She was the first to ask where his body had been, and witness his resurrection.

The Apostles even doubted her when she brought them the news.

The way I see it, looking at the Christian mythos from every possible angle, Mary Magdeline was truly Jesus' most loyal Disciple, and it seems she is hidden in the shadows of the Bible, her role and position in Christ's life diminished and swept under the rug.

Even Leonardo DiVinci recognized the power of the feminine, and the fear that Christian men in power had over the influence that the power of the feminine would have on thier followers.

Did Christian men feel threatened ? Did they mean to disregard the role of women because they feared the power women could have (or did have) ?

You raise a pretty good point. I saw this documentary that was basically disproving the da vinci code, but they found that mary magdaline may have been Jesus' main deciple. But they cound discover if it was anycloser than that becuase most of the text (cant remember the name) was destroyed.

Mary Magdalene was a very loyal disciple, but she wasn't chosen by Jesus for leadership in the church at before his death. Why? It seems that it might have been a bit about spiritual immaturity, or perhaps it was simply that she was given a different spiritual gift than the disciples. I consider the disciple John the Beloved to be the most loyal disciple as he was also at the cross, was very close to Jesus, was present at the transfiguration, etc.

I think it is unfair to say that she was swept under a rug. She is venerated as a saint in both the Eastern Orthodox and Catholic churches, second only to Mary, Jesus's mother amongst women. And considering the Mary is considered the greatest saint, that is very high esteem. Tradition says that she converted the entire province of Provence in France. She wasn't swept under the rug, she simply wasn't one of the twelve that Jesus chose to teach. She wasn't the closest to Jesus, nor does it seem that she was particularly knowledgeable of scripture, etc.

She was his wife, no?

Their remains were found together.

Originally posted by Boris
She was his wife, no?

Their remains were found together.

Originally posted by Nellinator
I find it funny that you cling so dearly to that thought. Real research indicates that you are either ignorant or lack the intelligence to interpret data.

What I find funny is how so many christians think so many non-christians think so much of it at all.

Much like the religion forum, it's not changing anyone's opinion.

I don't think that most non-Christians think highly of it. However, Boris seems to because he states it like a trumping fact and has tried to use it more than once.

And you'd be surprised what the religion forum has done.

Originally posted by Nellinator
And you'd be surprised what the religion forum has done.

Suprise me.

Nah, you won't appreciate it.

Of course Mary Magdelene was loyal. Ho's betta be loyal after how much Jesus paid for it.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Nah, you won't appreciate it.

Either you have no answer for me or you think I won't understand because, like most christians, you think you've gotten something the rest of us can't grasp.

The church doesn't like anything feminine, so they ousted Mary and also changed all female pagan deities into witches or images of evil.

Originally posted by debbiejo
The church doesn't like anything feminine, so they ousted Mary and also changed all female pagan deities into witches or images of evil.

Bingo.

Originally posted by debbiejo
The church doesn't like anything feminine, so they ousted Mary and also changed all female pagan deities into witches or images of evil.

Originally posted by Devil King
Either you have no answer for me or you think I won't understand because, like most christians, you think you've gotten something the rest of us can't grasp.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Actually, I know you will understand it because it is nothing that can't be understood. It's nothing spiritual, but people's opinions have changed and people have converted both ways.

Who? On either side of the divide?

Originally posted by debbiejo
The church doesn't like anything feminine, so they ousted Mary and also changed all female pagan deities into witches or images of evil.

Well put. Satanism could've well come from a woman's hatred of Christianity. Satanism views women as idols, not rubbish.

Oh whoops, did I just type that?

Originally posted by Devil King
Who? On either side of the divide?

Originally posted by Nellinator
Ones that you know would be debbiejo going from devout Catholic to an agnostic something rather. There are wonderful things called PMs. People that never openly talk on the forum ask questions all the time.

You think it had something to do with the Religion Forum? I've known Debbiejo a hell of a lot longer than you have, her spiritual beliefs far predate the existence of the religion forum.

Next?

I disagree.

Why do you care so much? I'm not revealing the names of people that obviously wished to remain private.

Originally posted by Nellinator
I disagree.

Then you'd be wrong.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Why do you care so much? I'm not revealing the names of people that obviously wished to remain private.

You're not revealing the names of people who don't exist?