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Is Christmas Religious For You?

or is it just a national holiday ?

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Christmas?

So, all you Muslims, is that Hajj you just taking a nice family vacation?


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Of course; I'm Mexican.


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Sure, I can celebrate any holiday I want, and I do most I know about.


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Sure, I can celebrate any holiday I want, and I do most I know about.


Rosh Hashanah? Kwanzaa? Eid al Fitr?


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Rosh Hashanah? Kwanzaa? Eid al Fitr?


Those are some of the ones I know very little about. If there is heavy drinking involved in any of them, then let me know. laughing


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Well you won't find too much drinking in Eid al Fitr.


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see, this bugs me. Atheists celebrating christmas, ANYONE who doesnt believe in christ celebrating christmas. Its the birthday of christ, and IMO, only his followers should celebrate it.


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For me no, it is a time to spend with family and friends, spend lots of money on gifts and kill a tree. stick out tongue
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see, this bugs me. Atheists celebrating christmas, ANYONE who doesnt believe in christ celebrating christmas. Its the birthday of christ, and IMO, only his followers should celebrate it.
In the true meaning of Christmas I would agree with you but Christmas is no longer just the celebration of the birth.


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see, this bugs me. Atheists celebrating christmas, ANYONE who doesnt believe in christ celebrating christmas. Its the birthday of christ, and IMO, only his followers should celebrate it.


But in the US its so commercialized that Atheists and people of all religions celebrate it. It's become more of an American holiday than a Christian one.

One of my employees is a Hindu and his entire frontyard is covered with lights and even an anamatronic, singing Frosty the Snowman. He definitely went all out.

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For me no, it is a time to spend with family and friends, spend lots of money on gifts and kill a tree. stick out tongue


See what I mean...


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see, this bugs me. Atheists celebrating christmas, ANYONE who doesnt believe in christ celebrating christmas. Its the birthday of christ, and IMO, only his followers should celebrate it.
Nah, it's just a celebration of the birth of some fictional character named Christ that if he was born at all wasn't born on "Christmas" and certainly not the way it is told. For us intelligent people it is just a nice Wintercelebration where we can meet the family and be happy.


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Since most of my family is Christian it would be hard to say that I can’t come over and be with my family just because I do not believe, should I be disowned during this time just because I do not believe in Christ? I think this is part of the reason that it has evolved the way it has.


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Yep, most scholars say he was born around January 7th.


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I'm still trying to figure out the whole 12 days of Christmas thing confused


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Since most of my family is Christian it would be hard to say that I can’t come over and be with my family just because I do not believe, should I be disowned during this time just because I do not believe in Christ? I think this is part of the reason that it has evolved the way it has.


That, and it's just another excuse for a day-off. But where St. Patrick's Day and Cinco de Mayo are alcohol-centric, Thanksgiving and Xmas are family-centric.


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But in the US its so commercialized that Atheists and people of all religions celebrate it. It's become more of an American holiday than a Christian one.

One of my employees is a Hindu and his entire frontyard is covered with lights and even an anamatronic, singing Frosty the Snowman. He definitely went all out.



See what I mean...


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For me no, it is a time to spend with family and friends, spend lots of money on gifts and kill a tree. stick out tongueIn the true meaning of Christmas I would agree with you but Christmas is no longer just the celebration of the birth.
my point exactly, it has lost its true meaning. people use it now as an excuse to get off of work and buy presents for one another. what are they really celebrating?


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see, this bugs me. Atheists celebrating christmas, ANYONE who doesnt believe in christ celebrating christmas. Its the birthday of christ, and IMO, only his followers should celebrate it.


I actually agree with this

I'd love it if there were an opt out option for celebrating christmas, but given the whole family thing, it really isn't a choice. I HAVE to celebrate christmas against my will.


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That, and it's just another excuse for a day-off. But where St. Patrick's Day and Cinco de Mayo are alcohol-centric, Thanksgiving and Xmas are family-centric.


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Nah, it's just a celebration of the birth of some fictional character named Christ that if he was born at all wasn't born on "Christmas" and certainly not the way it is told. For us intelligent people it is just a nice Wintercelebration where we can meet the family and be happy.
so people who believe in christ are now classified as non intelligent? It's hypocrisy, celebrating a holiday that they have no belief in.

Lemme ask you this, is there a national holiday for muslims comparable to christmas?


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what are they really celebrating?


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