Apostles maybe...Prophets can come from other religions.
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"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when my fear is gone I will turn and face fears path, and only I will remain."
-Paul Atreides
The prophets were more of Jewish men preparing the way for Christ. The apostles were converted Jews and gentiles that followed Christ's teachings (and became the first "Christians").
True. But Jesus was not Judaism. He came and laid down a new religion, one that fulfilled Judaism and gave it something more. This Judaism-and-then-some is known as Christianity (Catholic in my opinion). Though Christ was a Jew, he was still God.
Jesus was a devout Jew who had no intention of starting a new faith (that was Saul's doing, who went to the Gentiles because the Jews rejected his claim of Jesus as Messiah). Jesus rallied against the ossification of his faith, just like many rally against organized religion today. That Christianity is "something more" than Judaism is ethnocentric thinking, the kind responsible for Christianity's MGIBTYG mindset and its bloody convert-or-die history.
Further, Jesus=God was Constantine's proclamation, once he adopted the faith.
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A Jew who fulfilled both Mosaic law and Jewish prophecy yes. In this he didn't "start a new faith". However that the Jews did not wish to hear and see the fulfillment does not mean that his audience wasn't still the Jew. It was for the Jews that the Christ was born for. But his message was meant for everyone hence the the name Katholikos (Catholics=universal). In the perfect scheme of things Jesus was to come and "enlighten" (in a manner of speaking) and everyone was to see the truth. Then the Jews would have ceased to be Jews in the sense that they would be followers of the way. Since Christ. In fact today such Jews are called Messianic Jews.
Jesus rallied against the hypocrisy of his religious leaders and the complacency of his people. He was a revolutionist in that he brought forth a new way of thinking, not new thinking ideas. And that Chrisitianity is something more then Judaism is true, nothing to do with the perspective of the culture/religious views that I grew in. Christianity converted people by the example people lived by (the true example) and the teachings people could both relate to and accept. Sadly as man's history goes, he felt he had control over something that was not his. Man distorted religion to make it into your stereotypical convert-or-die idea of today where MGIBTYG is very much the mindset of many Christians. However, Religion is not the center of man's evil. That Man does in the name of religion doesn't mean that it is religion that is evil.
How so? As far as every prophecy made about him was concerned (which is all of the prophecy in general) he did fulfill it. As well as the mosaic law. Again I ask, how did he not?
It was an interpretation. that their Messiah would be a king to liberate them from slavery. Christ was King, and from a slavery he did free us, but his kingdom was not of this earth and freedom from the Romans was not the slavery he delivered us from.
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