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People Who Hate Because Of Religion

i was looking at a board
it was the old topic of the "Jesus remains" found months ago if you remember all that
they were happily discussing what they felt would be the collapse of the Christian faith
how hypocritical is this ?

most Atheists denounce religions for spreading hate
but the people who hate religion are doing the exact same thing: spreading hate except they spread hate against religion instead of for it
i simply can't understand any human being gleefully awaiting the pain that would come to the millions of people who do believe
such hate is just as bad in my eyes as the hate of the people who kill in the name of their faith

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Religious people are "spreading hate" to some, but are doing so for a perceived greater good. Atheists, like the example you used, generally don't attack religious people so much as the beliefs themselves because they see them as somehow irrational or harmful. Neither are doing so out of a desire to spread hate, but to improve humanity....even if it has the opposite affect.

It's all a matter of perspective.


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Atheists may have a wide variety of reasons for speaking out against certain religions, thus making it difficult to generalize.


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Religious people are "spreading hate" to some, but are doing so for a perceived greater good. Atheists, like the example you used, generally don't attack religious people so much as the beliefs themselves because they see them as somehow irrational or harmful. Neither are doing so out of a desire to spread hate, but to improve humanity....even if it has the opposite affect.

It's all a matter of perspective.


Another possibility is that there not even doing it for the benefit of humanity they are just doing it because they like being superior to other people. They say they have good intentions but deep down they know they're full of ****.

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Re: People Who Hate Because Of Religion

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Originally posted by 123KID
i was looking at a board
it was the old topic of the "Jesus remains" found months ago if you remember all that
they were happily discussing what they felt would be the collapse of the Christian faith
how hypocritical is this ?

most Atheists denounce religions for spreading hate
but the people who hate religion are doing the exact same thing: spreading hate except they spread hate against religion instead of for it
i simply can't understand any human being gleefully awaiting the pain that would come to the millions of people who do believe
such hate is just as bad in my eyes as the hate of the people who kill in the name of their faith


Schadenfreud . . . it's hardly uncommon and it's just as prevalent in people who are theists and people who are atheists. Atheists are just better at showing it off.


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most Atheists denounce religions for spreading hate
but the people who hate religion are doing the exact same thing: spreading hate except they spread hate against religion instead of for it
i simply can't understand any human being gleefully awaiting the pain that would come to the millions of people who do believe
such hate is just as bad in my eyes as the hate of the people who kill in the name of their faith


Difference is I dont care if I hate a religion.

That religion's feelings wont be hurt by that.

I could sit there all day calling religion's mum a slag and it wouldn't bat an eyelid.

Its an ideology.

People 1st, ideology 2nd in the "who-does-the-feeling-of-the-hate stakes" in that regard.

And if we look at the more aggressive predatory recruiting tactics (and the hate you recieve for not following, from some quarters) employed by the various religions, and look at them like a regular bad uncle, it wouldn't be too wrong to feel free to object to their constant slimey advances..surely.

So its about time religion got its hand off of our collective knee.

If I ever get tired of free thinking, I'll know where to find it.


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Another possibility is that there not even doing it for the benefit of humanity they are just doing it because they like being superior to other people. They say they have good intentions but deep down they know they're full of ****.


I suppose so. Again, though, it's a matter of perspective because they aren't just doing it on a whim. Anyone of any belief system has some cause for the words and actions.


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i simply can't understand any human being gleefully awaiting the pain that would come to the millions of people who do believe
such hate is just as bad in my eyes as the hate of the people who kill in the name of their faith


Correct! It's a lack of tolerance. You can find it in Atheism as well as Religion. We're all humans we all have our flaws. Until people learn to drop their superioty complex...we will still have these problems.


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Originally posted by 123KID
i was looking at a board
it was the old topic of the "Jesus remains" found months ago if you remember all that
they were happily discussing what they felt would be the collapse of the Christian faith
how hypocritical is this ?

most Atheists denounce religions for spreading hate
but the people who hate religion are doing the exact same thing: spreading hate except they spread hate against religion instead of for it
i simply can't understand any human being gleefully awaiting the pain that would come to the millions of people who do believe
such hate is just as bad in my eyes as the hate of the people who kill in the name of their faith
Good for you, but I will continue to find murder worse.


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Collapse of the Christian faith? Sounds great!

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Good for you, but I will continue to find murder worse.


i suppose
killing someone and ending it right there must be far worse than removing a person's reason for living and condemning them to existence, in their eyes, with no meaning
not to mention no Christian i know is eagerly awaiting millions of people losing their reason to live and being happy about it

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I think the whole "this could disprove the christian religion" is aimed more at those christians who take the bible word for word. Like the ones who are home-schooling their kids about how the dinosaurs lived in the garden in eden and the end is near.

Most christians accept the theory of evolution, and if the remains were proven to be real they would accept that. A couple of bones wouldn't stop millions from practicing a religion, weather or not they believed in their authenticity.


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Whats all this about Jesus remains?


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not to mention no Christian i know is eagerly awaiting millions of people losing their reason to live and being happy about it


Clearly you don't know any real Christains then. Everybody knows that faith causes people to go on a Crusade every couple years no matter how rational they might otherwise be. It's just common sense.


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I suppose so. Again, though, it's a matter of perspective because they aren't just doing it on a whim. Anyone of any belief system has some cause for the words and actions.


To an extent yes, if the person is ignorant and doesnt know any better. People who say that fossils are the work of the devil for example are full of **** because these same people will use sciencie when it suits them but if something contradicts their belief they break out the devil escape clause. This is an example of constructing your own belief in order to give justification to imposing yourself on other people.

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The moral of this thread is, yet again:

''Religion is Poo-poo and I want to be accepted therefore I shall make into my mantra!''


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''Religion is Poo-poo and I want to be accepted therefore I shall make into my mantra!''


laughing out loud

*considers starting a thread named this*


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I think the idea that religious people "always go on crusades" is an irrational, hypocritical statement. If you could step back and take an objective view on this topic, you will see that Atheism has its crusades as well to try to eradicate religion on this planet as per the Christians tried to do with the Muslims etc. In such cases Atheism is more a religion of people who do not believe in God. A so called "group of loners".


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