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LatinoStallion
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Worried If God is Omnipresent....

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.....then that must mean he also exists in Hell.




I think that's a contradiction. If God is omnipresent, and exists in all places and facets of actuality, then he must also exist in Hell. But if Hell is a place of pure evil, and no good can exist there, then how can God be there? And if God is Holy and Pure, and Hell is the absense of God, then how can God exist in Hell at all ?


And if God does not exist in Hell, then how is he omnipresent ?




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No.


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No...what ?


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Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
No...what ?


God is not Omnipresent.


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I agree


The only way God can be omnipresent is if he/she is everything and everywhere. If God was good and evil, then God could occupy Hell as well as everything else.


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God is not Omnipresent. Who said he was?

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Originally posted by Jesusisalive
Moreover, the universe is an impersonal entity whereas God--based on the Scriptures--is the all-intelligent/knowing, all-present, all-powerful Creator. There is no comparison between the two.


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You started a thread based off of a statement from JIA?

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The Bible says that there is no where that god is not.....sooo yes. God is in hell.


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The Bible says that there is no where that god is not.....sooo yes. God is in hell.
And why do you assume hell is a place?

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If God is omnipresent, then he is everywhere...Heaven and Hell...whether or not they are places or states of mind is semantics.

If God is everywhere, then he is also in Hell, but that would be a contradiction.


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If God is omnipresent, then he is everywhere...Heaven and Hell...whether or not they are places or states of mind is semantics.

If God is everywhere, then he is also in Hell, but that would be a contradiction.


However, if Gods consciousness transcends your conceptions of time and space, he doesn't have to physically be there to be there. I don't know how to explain that...but everything is "one eternal now"* with God.

*Joseph Smith


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he doesn't have to physically be there to be there.
He also doesn't have to be recognized. God's presense can be felt anywhere but can also be ignored anywhere, which is why evil exists despite God being there.

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So if Om is Godnipresent...


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So if Om is Godnipresent...



Spoonerism FTW?


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And why do you assume hell is a place?
People misinterpret the word Hell as a place, but it is not. It's a state of being.


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Originally posted by Deja~vu
People misinterpret the word Hell as a place, but it is not. It's a state of being.


yes


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And this is why many theologians interpret Hell to be a separation from God.


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And this is why many theologians interpret Hell to be a separation from God.
Exactly. And the term "hellfire" has a bunch of connotations other that physical heat and burning as well.

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nothing is omnipresent. other than SEEING everything, one would have to FEAL everything from every possible perspective at the same time too. {and this is impossible as many things, to maintain thair uniqueness in perspective, need to be felt seperately from other perspectives. e.g. you can not feal true dispair in a certain situation if you are also looking at it from a hopeful perspective simultaneously}. this applies more easily to people's thoughts, even if you were able to sumhow SEE or FEAL sum1 else's thoughts, your experience of them wud be different than the expirience of the actual person, simply because, you are not in the same state he/she is and feal differently about the thought {based on your own state of being} than they do. this subjective facet of reality in my oppinion destroys the omnipresence paradigm. which also explaines why the god of scriptures doesnt have empathy for each and every individual soul's view. simply because those are things no1 can truly know all at the same time as they contradict each other and destroy unity of an entity.

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