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Abrahamic God, worst serial killer in history?

if we are to take the abrahamic scriptures and sects seriously (judaism/christianity/islam) then it appears that god is the most vicious, malicious, psychopathic, vindictive and deranged serial killer in human history. Does his position as God and creator of everything make these acts right?

33,041,220, thats a good total.

Heres a running estimated total taken from THIS SITE

God drowns everyone on earth (except Noah and his family) Genesis 7:23, BT 30,000,000? 30,000,000

God rains fire and brimstone on Sodom and Gomorrah, killing everyone. Gen.19:24, BT 1000? 30,001,000

Lot's wife for looking back Gen.19:26, BT 1 30,001,001

Er who was "wicked in the sight of the Lord" Gen.38:7, 1 Chr.2:3, BT 1 30,001,002

Onan for spilling his seed Gen.38:10, BT 1 30,001,003

7th Egyptian Plague: Hail Exodus 9:25, BT 30,000? 30,031,003

God kills every Egyptian firstborn child. Ex.12:29-30, BT 500,000? 30,531,003

God drowns Egyptian army Ex.14:28, BT 1000? 30,532,003

God and Moses help Joshua kill the Amalekites Ex.17:13, BT 1000? 30,533,003

For dancing naked around Aaron's golden calf Ex.32:27-28, 35, BT 3000 30,536,003

Aaron's sons for offering strange fire before the Lord Lev.10:1-3, Num.3:4, 26:61, BT 2 30,536,005

A blasphemer Lev.24:10-23, BT 1 30,536,006

God burned to death an unknown number for complaining Numbers 11:1, BT 100? 30,536,106

God sent "a very great plague" for complaining about the food. Num.11:33, BT 10,000? 30,546,106

God killed those who murmured with a plague. Num.14:35-36, BT 100? 30,546,206

A man who picked up sticks on the Sabbath Num.15:32-36, BT 1 30,546,207

Korah, Dathan, and Abiram (and their families) Num.16:27, BT 12+ 30,546,219

Burned to death for offering incense Num.16:35, 26:10, BT 250 30,546,469

For complaining Num.16:49, BT 14,700 30,561,169

Massacre of the Aradites Num.21:1-3, BT 3000? 30,564,169

For complaining about the lack of food and water, God sent fiery serpents to bite the people, and many of them died. Num.21:6, BT 100? 30,564,269

God delivers the Bashanites into Moses' hands and Moses kills everyone "until there was none left alive." Num.21:34-35, BT 1000? 30,565,269

For "committing whoredom with the daughters of Moab" Num.25:9, BT 24,000 30,589,269

Midianite massacre (32,000 virgins were kept alive) Num.31:1-35, BT 90,000+ 30,679,269

The slaughter of the Anakim, the childen of Esau, and the Horim Deuteronomy 2:21-22 5000? 30,684,269

God hardened the king of Heshbon's heart so that the Israelites could massacre his people. (included several cities) Dt.2:33-34, BT 3000? 30,687,269

God delievered the king of Bashan so that the Israelites could massacre his people. Dt.3:3-6 60,000? 30,747,269

Massacre of Jericho Joshua 6:21, BT 1000? 30,748,269

God tells Joshua to stone to death Achan (and his family) for taking the accursed thing. Joshua 7:10-12, 24-26, BT 5+ 30,748,274

God tells Joshua to attack Ai and do what he did to Jericho (kill everyone). Joshua 8:1-25, BT 12,000 30,760,274

God slaughters the Amorites and even chases them "along the way" as they try to escape. Joshua 10:10-11, BT 1000? 30,761,274

Joshua kills 5 kings and hangs their dead bodies on trees Joshua 10:24-26, BT 5 30,761,279

Massacre of 7 cities Joshua 10:28-42, BT 7000? 30,768,279

God delivers the Hazorites. Joshua 11:8-12, BT 1000? 30,769,279

Massacre of the Anakim Joshua 11:20-21, BT 1000? 30,770,279

God delivered Canaanites and Perizzites Judges 1:4, BT 10,000 30,780,279

Ehud delivers a message from God: a knife into the king's belly Jg.3:15-22, BT 1 30,780,280

God delivered Moabites Jg.3:28-29, BT 10,000 30,790,280

Massacre of the Canaanites Jg.4:15, BT 1000? 30,791,280

God forces Midianite soldiers to kill each other. Jg.7:2-22, 8:10, BT 120,000 30,911,280

God delivered the Ammonites to Jephthah to slaughter. Jg.11:32-33, BT 1000? 30,912,280

The Spirit of the Lord comes on Samson Jg.14:19, BT 30 30,912,310

The Spirit of the Lord comes mightily on Samson Jg.15:14-15, BT 1000 30,913,310

Samson's God-assisted act of terrorism Jg.16:27-30, BT 3000 30,916,310

"The Lord smote Benjamin" Jg.20:35-37, BT 25,100 30,941,410

More Benjamites Jg.20:44-46 25,000 30,966,410

For looking into the ark of the Lord 1 Sam.6:19, BT 50,070 31,016,480

God delivered Philistines 1 Sam.14:12, BT 20 31,016,500

God forces the Philistine soldiers to kill each other. 1 Sam.14:20, BT 1000? 31,017,500

God orders Saul to kill every Amalekite man, women, and child. 1 Sam.15:2-3, BT 1000? 31,018,500

Samuel (at God's command) hacks Agag to death 1 Sam.15:32-33, BT 1 31,018,501

God delivers the Philistines. 1 Sam.23:2-5 1000? 31,019,501

"The Lord smote Nabal." 1 Sam.25:38 1 31,019,502

God delivers the Philistines to David (again). 2 Sam.5:19, 25 1000? 31,020,502

Uzzah for trying to keep the ark from falling 2 Sam.6:6-7, 1 Chr.13:9-10 1 31,020,503

David and Bathsheba's baby boy 2 Samuel 12:14-18 1 31,020,504

God sent a three-year famine because of something Saul did. 2 Sam.21:1 5000? 31,025,504

Seven sons of Saul hung up before the Lord 2 Sam.21:6-9 7 31,025,511

From plague as punishment for David's census (men only; probably 200,000 if including women and children) 2 Sam.24:13, 1 Chr.21:7 70,000+ 31,095,511

A prophet for believing another prophet's lie 1 Kg.13:1-24 1 31,095,512

Baasha killed everyone in the house of Jeroboam "according to the saying of the Lord." 1 Kings 15:29 1000? 31,096,512

Zimri killed everyone in the house of Baasha "according to the word of the Lord." 1 Kg.16:11-12 1000? 31,097,512

Religious leaders killed in a prayer contest 1 Kg.18:22-40 450 31,097,962

God delivers the Syrians into the Israelites' hands 1 Kg.20:28-29 100,000 31,197,962

God makes a wall fall on Syrian soldiers 1 Kg.20:30 27,000 31,224,962

God sent a lion to eat a man for not killing a prophet 1 Kg.20:35-36 1 31,224,963

Ahaziah is killed for talking to the wrong god. 2 Kings 1:2-4, 17, 2 Chr.22:7-9 1 31,224,964

Burned to death by God 2 Kg.1:9-12 102 31,225,066

God sends two bears to kill children for making fun of Elisha's bald head 2 Kg.2:23-24 42 31,225,108

Trampled to death for disbelieving Elijah 2 Kg.7:17-20 1 31,225,109

God calls for a seven year famine. 2 Kg.8:1 10,000? 31,235,109
Jezebel 2 Kg.9:33-37 1 31,235,110

Jehu killed "all that remained unto Ahab in Samaria ... according to the saying of the Lord" 2 Kg.10:16-17 100? 31,235,210

God sent lions to kill "some" foreigners 2 Kg.17:25-26 3+ 31,235,213

Sleeping Assyrian soldiers 2 Kg.19:35, 2 Chr.32:21, Is.37:36 185,000 31,420,213

Saul 1 Chronicles 10:14 1 31,420,214

God delivers Israel into the hands of Judah 2 Chronicles 13:15-17 500,000 31,920,214

Jeroboam 2 Chr.13:20 1 31,920,215

"The Lord smote the Ethiopians." 2 Chr.14:9-14 1,000,000 32,920,215

God kills Jehoram by making his bowels fall out 2 Chr.21:14-19 1 32,920,216

Judean soldiers because they had forsaken the Lord 2 Chr.28:6 120,000 33,040,216

God delivered the Israelites into the hand of the Chaldeans. 2 Chr.36:16-17 1000? 33,041,216

Ezekiel's wife Ezekiel 24:15-18 1 33,041,217

Ananias and Sapphira Acts 5:1-10 2 33,041,219

Herod Acts 12:23, BT 1 33,041,220

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I think mass murder is a rather serious subjectsmile

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evil evil god.. notice i dont capitalize his title/name..
some ppl think the old testament god was the devil..
but i just think he was a prick. who learned that his actions were pushing away ppl.. then changed his tune when he realized he would rule heaven alone 'cause no one would want to be around him.. :P


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Well IF He really is God and created us... does he not have the right to slaughter us... much more can we really do anything about it? If God is non-existent... then who gives a shit?


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i think god should also be accountable for its actions.. you know the old saying not even kings are above the law..

being human we may not be able to do anything now, but given time and thought we can come up with something..

remember the babylon story had god say that their is nothing we arent capable of accomplishing..

in a sense i like to think man is god and there is nothing we can't accomplish.


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I think mass murder is a rather serious subjectsmile


Is fictional mass murder also a serious subject?


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1. The majority are single, white males. -- No.
2. They are often very intelligent, with IQs in the "bright normal" range. -- Likely fits this aspect.
3. Despite their high IQs, they do poorly in school, have trouble holding down jobs, and often work menial jobs. -- Created a universe but fails to tend to it well. Fits this.
4. They tend to come from unstable families. -- Has no family.
5. As children, they are typically abandoned by their fathers and raised by domineering mothers. -- No parents. Possible equivalency.
6. Their families often have criminal, psychiatric and alcoholic histories. -- No parents but his son liked wine.
7. They often are mistrustful of their parents. -- No parents.
8. It is common to find that as children, they were abused—psychologically, physically and/or sexually—by a family member. -- No parents.
9. Many spend time in institutions as children and have records of early psychiatric problems. -- No evidence of this. In childhood God created paradise.
10. They have high rates of suicide attempts. -- Omnipotent and thus likely incapable.
11. From an early age, many are intensely interested in voyeurism, fetishism, and sadomasochistic pornography. -- Clearly voyeristic but fetishism and sadomasochistic tendencies are less pronounced. His treatment of his son may qualify as sadistic, however.
12. More than 60 percent wet their beds beyond the age of 12. -- Great Flood? Possible.
13. Many are fascinated with fire starting. -- Burnt offerings are likely a manifestation of this.
14. They are involved in sadistic activity or tormenting small creatures. -- Sometimes causes horrific deaths.

Fits the basic profile of a mission oriented serial killer including the publication of a manifesto detailing his beliefs.


Note: Likely a spree killer due to sheer scope of crimes.


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evil evil god.. notice i dont capitalize his title/name..
some ppl think the old testament god was the devil..
but i just think he was a prick. who learned that his actions were pushing away ppl.. then changed his tune when he realized he would rule heaven alone 'cause no one would want to be around him.. :P


God isn't his name, its his title...by not capitalising it you probably think your clever but really your just spitting in the face of the dictionary...owell.

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sorry i didnt mean to offend the holy dictionary.. plz accept my apology.
but the old testament god was not very forgiving and seemed to rule by fear and intimitation. His actions just didnt seem to be too holy/godly of the god he claimed to be..

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Umm, why couldn't he rule with fear an intimidation...he's God he can do what he likes...

Who are you to judge him? Your a noone from nowhere who's thought about eternity for twenty five minutes and thinks he's come to some interesting conclusions.

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who am i? i am a man who has seen the world, fought in a war been loved and betrayed, i have sin and asked for forgiveness. I have lived and have suffered and seen death...

I by right of being human and a part of humanity, have more right to judge my fellow man and confront the maker of my cruelty and tormoil, then "it" does.

as audacious as it may sound i claim the right to question and ask why.

at the end of the day who is he truly to believe he can judge me. when he has not lived my life and is the architect of my misery.

go ahead and claim God is God for your answer. everyone is held responsible for ones actions whether in this life or the next.


P.S. "i am" there for "i exist", no different then whom u worship.

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He can judge you because he made you, he is in you, he is with you, he transcends you, your pain he has felt, your joy he has felt, your rejection of him he has felt...

That and he's got bigger guns than you.

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he can not judge because he does not exist.. at least not in the judeo belief system...


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first of all, please do not bring your "god does not exist" trolling into a scenario that relies on the existence of god. This really is off topic, pointless, and noobish.

Do I believe that god is a serial killer? no. I believe that everybody he killed deserved it. (for all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of god).

The wages of sin is death.

Also theoretically, us, being his creations are his to command, to kill, and to save.

Also the judeo bible states that god is far beyond our comprehension, and that we, with mortal brains, are incapable of fathoming him enough to make a valid judgement on his actions.

If god exists (which i believe he does), he is our tribunal, not the other way around.


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Well theres no proof the Bible is from God anyway.


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he can not judge because he does not exist.. at least not in the judeo belief system...


Wow, thats quite dogmatic...

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yeah but you see it was all done for the greater good

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[QUOTE=11378755]Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
[B]first of all, please do not bring your "god does not exist" trolling into a scenario that relies on the existence of god. This really is off topic, pointless, and noobish.



i was answering a question that was directed at me..

now i already commented on the judeo god being a serial killer in the old testament..

now my earlier statement of the judeo god not existing is my way of saying that whatever God is or may be, if he exist is far beyond committing such actions.. and it is simply some person's way of getting ppl to follow his believe system through fear of its god...


so basically my belief in the undefinable, unknowable God is he would not and did not do those things..


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Look if God (from the Torah, Bible, or Koran) exists then we are all screwed and all the b*tching and whining in the world (or universe) won't stop him from sending your ass to hell. If he is omnipotent, then there isn't anybody who can touch him and by the time you utter "That's not fair , you can't judge me!" you'll have a pitchfork half-way up your ass. If God is God he can and will do whatever the f*ck he wants.

If God is fake... who gives a shit?


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