poor reverends and ministers
seriously, i want people to discuss this. why is it that you wont find that many revernds below the poverty line? while youll find many who are among the richest people in their communities. here im referring more to evangelism/america. point out to me if im completely wrong in this assumption.
and if so, what does it say about the relegion?
^aww thnxxxx. although, i though the quality of my threads and posts in general was going down, seeing as i dont tend to care enough, orrrrr spend too much time on kmc anymore.
but really, where are all the poor ministers! hmmm, maybe going to pat robertson's colledge really was a better idea than yale law.......
Re: poor reverends and ministers
Originally posted by leonheartmm
seriously, i want people to discuss this. why is it that you wont find that many revernds below the poverty line? while youll find many who are among the richest people in their communities. here im referring more to evangelism/america. point out to me if im completely wrong in this assumption.and if so, what does it say about the relegion?
Well this says to me that God wants them to be rich. Alternately we can take a capitalist/materialist perspective and say that because they're rich they deserve to be rich and HOW DARE YOU QUESTION RICH PEOPLE! Finally I would point out that ministers and priests work for organizations that get most of their money via donation, so obviously most people either don't care or think this is a good thing.
Like many things, the closer you come to the extremities, the worse things are. Catholics are very traditional, and may give money just because that's what is expected at mass. Gotta keep up the cathedral. Gotta send people to convert to the one true faith. gotta keep sending money to vatican city and del papa. gotta build up the priory so the diocese can afford more monks. gotta run campaigns to become prior, bishop, archbishop, cardinal.
people have done these things since the creation of the OTF [one true faith] when st. peter himself [blah blah blah de blah spout off the parable about the woman who was poor but gave all her money was better than the woman who was rich and gave just the tithe. i mean, you don't want to go to HELL, do you? so just hand oveer the money and we'll make sure that turns out well.]
and then there's evangi. they need the money for technology. gotta buy the projector screens on which we will be posting the words for the praise songs. make sure the minister is not dressed in clerical robes, because ministers are people too. pay for the mission trips to exotic places but make them jump through the evangi hoop before they can get human help, not spiritual guidance.
keep the youth group huge and involved, suck them in with totally cool houses that are dream homes for teenagers and make sure that it's 99percent fun and 1percent religion. [believe me, i've been to one of these things. about five minutes before the end, and the leaders were all like "let's pray, my gorgeous god brother from another mother sista from another mista friends." bow head, feel awkward because hey, i was just blowing up "miscellaneous people who look like they're probably middle eastern on the widescreen tv andd munching on popcorn stand popcorn. ]
catholics think IN with the money.
evangi think OUT with the money.
either way, i guess it's not being handled well because money is demanded every week.
[mho]
It's because the majority of these people aren't doing anything but scamming money from people. If they would start preaching correctly there wouldn't be any "stadium churches."
501c3 corporations, are not churches.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,'"
Churches don't have to obtain 501c3 status to be tax exempt.
Also, they can't prohibit the free exercise of religion/ faith.
So, find an unregistered church or home church.
Originally posted by siriuswriter
Like many things, the closer you come to the extremities, the worse things are. Catholics are very traditional, and may give money just because that's what is expected at mass. Gotta keep up the cathedral. Gotta send people to convert to the one true faith. gotta keep sending money to vatican city and del papa. gotta build up the priory so the diocese can afford more monks. gotta run campaigns to become prior, bishop, archbishop, cardinal.
people have done these things since the creation of the OTF [one true faith] when st. peter himself [blah blah blah de blah spout off the parable about the woman who was poor but gave all her money was better than the woman who was rich and gave just the tithe. i mean, you don't want to go to HELL, do you? so just hand oveer the money and we'll make sure that turns out well.]
There's also the various huge Catholic charities . . .
Originally posted by inimalistI don't expect that it would. My skepticism arises from comments like "God wants them to be rich", as symmetric chaos suggested. And I can't help feeling slight resentment towards the numerous protestants that have turned up their nose at my church every chance they get, informing me that "we take care of our ministers...."
In America, where EVERYTHING is valued, and in fact, culturally, one expects to pay more for better service, why would religion be excluded from this?