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Dr Will Hatch
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Why does an Omnipotent God need followers?

If God is real, than is a simply a source of morality and order, or is he an actual entity such as Zeus or Odin? If it is the latter, than why is He presupposing that he is the source of all morality? Does this mean that omniscience grants perfection?

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Religion makes little sense. Somehow this thread seems to make even less. There are no less than three questions in the opening, and none are related to the title.


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People like to sound deep and intelligent, so they ask a lot of "thought-provoking" questions.


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Religion makes little sense. Somehow this thread seems to make even less. There are no less than three questions in the opening, and none are related to the title.
Yes they are. God is supposed to be the ultimate source of morality, thus meaning that His authority is justified. If this is true, than having followers is justified.

That's the official line anyway.

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People like to sound deep and intelligent, so they ask a lot of "thought-provoking" questions.
I'm not familar with you, so I'll just let this inane comment go.

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Yes they are. God is supposed to be the ultimate source of morality, thus meaning that His authority is justified. If this is true, than having followers is justified.

That's the official line anyway.

Except, the question wasn't "is it moral to seek followers". The question was WHY he needs them, an issue distinct from moral authority.


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Except, the question wasn't "is it moral to seek followers". The question was WHY he needs them, an issue distinct from moral authority.
It would all make sense if someone more coherent than I had posted this, true. laughing out loud I guess what I'm really asking is: Even if God is the source of all morality, why?

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That is yet another question, related more tenuously to the title than the last!


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laughing out loud Give the n00b an easy lashing, please! From what I can see, all the questions are related to one another logically.

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Re: Why does an Omnipotent God need followers?

An Omnipotent God does not need.

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If God is real, than is a simply a source of morality and order, or is he an actual entity such as Zeus or Odin? If it is the latter, than why is He presupposing that he is the source of all morality? Does this mean that omniscience grants perfection?


Does might make right?

The idea of a god is something that humans made up. Therefore, god can be what ever you need or want.


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Why does an Omnipotent God need followers?


* first, there are things God cannot do (lying, Hebrews 6:18 and changing James 1:17), so He is not omnipotent according to the Bible... and He does not need anything from anyone (Acts 17:25)... but He wants something... He wants all people to be saved (I Timothy 2:3-4)... smile

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God does not need followers. Where did you get this idea from? God simply wants man to live life more abundantly -- to treat others as they wish to be treated (to love one another). If such was the case, for instance, rape and theft would never occur, but man is sinful in nature, and so it happens. Life is complex due to sin; it should be simple otherwise. As Scripture teaches, God saw this in advance. Since we are not like Him. In so, He offered Himself as a ransom -- Jesus the Christ -- to die in our place (for the sins we have committed). Because of Jesus, we have a chance to have eternal life. Christianity is all about the works of Jesus, not man. In Jesus alone, we have life. Understand?

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God does not need followers. Where did you get this idea from? God simply wants man to live life more abundantly -- to treat others as they wish to be treated (to love one another). If such was the case, for instance, rape and theft would never occur, but man is sinful in nature, and so it happens. Life is complex due to sin; it should be simple otherwise. As Scripture teaches, God saw this in advance. Since we are not like Him. In so, He offered Himself as a ransom -- Jesus the Christ -- to die in our place (for the sins we have committed). Because of Jesus, we have a chance to have eternal life. Christianity is all about the works of Jesus, not man. In Jesus alone, we have life. Understand?


Are you sure that suffering isn't caused by humans?


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the answer to ur question is inconceivable to our minds.god can defy logic itself,which is why isn't bound by the large rock paradox


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the answer to ur question is inconceivable to our minds.god can defy logic itself,which is why isn't bound by the large rock paradox


Then isn't God just playing mind games with us? Why should humans spend all their time worshiping and feeling guilty when it's impossible for us to know what's right?

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Except, the question wasn't "is it moral to seek followers". The question was WHY he needs them, an issue distinct from moral authority.


Yeah but some people will argue he doesn't need followers, we need God. wink


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Yeah but some people will argue he doesn't need followers, we need God. wink


...and if there was no god, then we would make one up. We humans have made a lot of gods in the past. That is a good argument for there not being a god.


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...and if there was no god, then we would make one up. We humans have made a lot of gods in the past. That is a good argument for there not being a god.


Well its not that good depends on how you look at it.


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...and if there was no god, then we would make one up. We humans have made a lot of gods in the past. That is a good argument for there not being a god.


No, that's actually a unbelievably poor argument for there not being a god.


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Well its not that good depends on how you look at it.


You would have to know more about why humans need a god. Also, remember that I am not an atheist.


Symmetric Chaos, you have no point.


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