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Man was never to eat of the tree of life.
Man was never to eat of the tree of life.
I do not think man was ever intended to eat of the tree of life and you will note that nowhere in scriptures is it’s lose bemoaned.
We came out of Eden being as Gods and knowing all that he knows. God’s own words in this myth. They have become as Gods.
We are then denied the ability to have that knowledge live forever as it would make man stagnate at whatever level of knowledge he had then, or even now if we extrapolate the story to where we are all Adams. Our knowledge continues to evolve.
The archetypal God in this myth does not want man to idolize his own knowledge as that would stifle progress. We are to perpetually raise the bar and not make an unchangeable immortal idol of what we know. We are to deny ourselves the immortality of our ideas and knowledge. They, like man, are to evolve forever.
I bet you never thought of this myth that way.
Can you see it?
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DL
Oct 11th, 2014 08:38 PM
Shakyamunison
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Looking at you.
I don't believe there was ever a tree of life. It is just part of a story.
Its kind of like saying that man was never meant to have a light-saber.
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Oct 11th, 2014 08:57 PM
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Re: Man was never to eat of the tree of life.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Greatest I am
Man was never to eat of the tree of life.
I do not think man was ever intended to eat of the tree of life and you will note that nowhere in scriptures is it’s lose bemoaned.
We came out of Eden being as Gods and knowing all that he knows. God’s own words in this myth. They have become as Gods.
We are then denied the ability to have that knowledge live forever as it would make man stagnate at whatever level of knowledge he had then, or even now if we extrapolate the story to where we are all Adams. Our knowledge continues to evolve.
The archetypal God in this myth does not want man to idolize his own knowledge as that would stifle progress. We are to perpetually raise the bar and not make an unchangeable immortal idol of what we know. We are to deny ourselves the immortality of our ideas and knowledge. They, like man, are to evolve forever.
I bet you never thought of this myth that way.
Can you see it?
Regards
DL
They did eat the tree of life, they were allowed to eat that and that is why they had immortality. Once they ate the fruit of the tree of good and evil, they were prohibited from gaining access to the tree of life because they would have then been given immortality. States this all in the Bible.
Oct 11th, 2014 11:09 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Lestov16
LOL at the bible being discussed as factual
Who says its not...you?
Oct 12th, 2014 03:02 AM
Shakyamunison
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Who says its not...you?
I for one.
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Oct 12th, 2014 05:39 AM
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Re: Man was never to eat of the tree of life.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Greatest I am
I bet you never thought of this myth that way.
Can you see it?
Nope.
Nope.
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Oct 12th, 2014 10:05 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Who says its not...you?
there are whole testiments and goepels of the bible that have been taken out or censored over the course of history. and this is a fact. im just saying its reliability and bias point of view (if it has one) can be called into question
Oct 27th, 2014 03:16 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
there are whole testiments and goepels of the bible that have been taken out or censored over the course of history. and this is a fact. im just saying its reliability and bias point of view (if it has one) can be called into question
Again, many testaments were dismissed because there were actual tellings form first hand witnesses that contradicted the scriptures. Tradition is a very important element of early christianity, most witnesses left no written data for us to scrutinize.
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Oct 27th, 2014 07:51 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Who says its not...you?
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Oct 28th, 2014 03:11 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I don't believe there was ever a tree of life. It is just part of a story.
Its kind of like saying that man was never meant to have a light-saber.
Correct, man was meant to have two lightsabers:
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Oct 28th, 2014 03:58 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Robtard
... man was meant to have two lightsabers:
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Man was meant to have the BLUE lightsaber.
Red and green don't cut it.
Oct 28th, 2014 10:12 PM
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Re: Man was never to eat of the tree of life.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Greatest I am
I bet you never thought of this myth that way.
Can you see it?
Regards
DL
well, in the Bible, God appointed man to die a physical death from the start... that's the reason why He created man out of the dust of the ground, which is our flesh... when Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit, they died spiritually...
Nov 2nd, 2014 01:19 AM
Greatest I am
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I don't believe there was ever a tree of life. It is just part of a story.
I agree but if not meant as I speculated, what doe it mean.
Bear in mind that nowhere in the story or bible is it's loss ever bemoaned.
It seems that even the biblical writers did not believe it to be an important part of the story.
Thoughts?
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DL
Nov 2nd, 2014 06:35 PM
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Re: Re: Man was never to eat of the tree of life.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Time Immemorial
They did eat the tree of life, they were allowed to eat that and that is why they had immortality. Once they ate the fruit of the tree of good and evil, they were prohibited from gaining access to the tree of life because they would have then been given immortality. States this all in the Bible.
If they ate of the tree of life and became immortal, where are they?
Please quote where the bible says they ate of the tree of life.
Also tell us why God would forbid them of doing what they had already done?
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DL
Nov 2nd, 2014 06:39 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Lestov16
LOL at the bible being discussed as factual
It has been said that people of intelligence can discuss what they do not believe.
Sorry if I went above your pay scale.
You might wonder why I do it.
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DL
Nov 2nd, 2014 06:40 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Who says its not...you?
Who says it is ...you?
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DL
Nov 2nd, 2014 06:44 PM
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Re: Re: Man was never to eat of the tree of life.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by dyajeep
well, in the Bible, God appointed man to die a physical death from the start... that's the reason why He created man out of the dust of the ground, which is our flesh... when Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit, they died spiritually...
Where is this shown in scriptures?
Further, how is, as God says in the narrative, A & E have become as Gods, knowing good and evil, dying spiritually.
That quote from God says they brought life to their spiritual thinking and not death as you indicate.
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DL
Nov 2nd, 2014 06:47 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Robtard
Correct, man was meant to have two lightsabers:
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Bardocks twin.
Nov 2nd, 2014 06:57 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Man was meant to have the BLUE lightsaber.
Red and green don't cut it.
With that tree? Green and Red are most appropriate.
Nov 3rd, 2014 03:02 AM
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