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Genesis-Soldier
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christianity symbolism

so after a debate with a friend of mine we discussed if a cross is a "correct" symbol of christianity.

he argued that using the monument you were nailed to as a symbol of your beliefs is pushing it a bit

(not sure if this has been done or not)

Oct 27th, 2014 03:06 AM

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I always thought it was strange to use an execution device as a religious symbol.

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Oct 27th, 2014 03:17 PM

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I see no issue with it, nor did I when I was religious. It's perhaps the most recognizable symbol in all of religion. And it represents suffering for the sake of Mankind. It would only be a negative symbol if there weren't the salvation part as a result.

It also explains historical fetishism with religious martyrdom. It's easier to justify the sh*t life throws at you if part of your religious belief includes the idea that suffering nobly brings salvation and piety.

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I see no issue with it, nor did I when I was religious. It's perhaps the most recognizable symbol in all of religion. And it represents suffering for the sake of Mankind. It would only be a negative symbol if there weren't the salvation part as a result.

It also explains historical fetishism with religious martyrdom. It's easier to justify the sh*t life throws at you if part of your religious belief includes the idea that suffering nobly brings salvation and piety.

the most recognisable symbol? perhaps in the western civilisation

although i quite agree with the idea of suffering in religion to deal with pain and torment

Oct 27th, 2014 11:07 PM

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the most recognisable symbol? perhaps in the western civilisation

What symbol would trump it? I'm curious.

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Oct 28th, 2014 04:15 AM

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What symbol would trump it? I'm curious.

Lamb, dove, anchor, the fish symbol on cars (forget the proper name), have all been used.

Symbols are just that though. Its the belief you put in them.
-shrug-

Look at the swastika. Hitler adopting it as a symbol for the third reich forever tainted it, even though before then it had been used by religions all over the world since days of old and such. Its actually called a gammodian cross in some circles.

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Lamb, dove, anchor, the fish symbol on cars (forget the proper name), have all been used.

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None of those are more used/recongized then the cross through, which is what Digi is asking.

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Well then we'll go with your answer.

Oh wait.

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Oct 28th, 2014 04:50 AM

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I don't think any religious symbol is.

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Oct 28th, 2014 04:54 AM

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I know, i was busting on you.
The cross wasnt the first symbol but its the most well known.
It has that Superman aura going for it. Or is it the other way around? Cant recall which came first...

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Lamb, dove, anchor, the fish symbol on cars (forget the proper name), have all been used.

Symbols are just that though. Its the belief you put in them.
-shrug-

Agreed. But yeah, this:

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None of those are more used/recongized then the cross through, which is what Digi is asking.

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I'm pretty sure the cross is the most ubiquitous religious symbol in the world. And to say it's barbaric or odd to use is to ignore the actual symbolic meaning behind it, a meaning that literally billions of people share.

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In regards to its barbarity, its in line with the religion as a whole. They drink blood and eat flesh. They took out the original Sin Cities, stone people left and right...a torture device as the main symbol of the religion isnt so odd.

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Oct 28th, 2014 05:49 AM

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In regards to its barbarity, its in line with the religion as a whole. They drink blood and eat flesh. They took out the original Sin Cities, stone people left and right...a torture device as the main symbol of the religion isnt so odd.

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Oct 28th, 2014 05:55 AM

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Thanks.
I always find it funny how the religion is portrayed as fluffy goodness. It was a tough religion for a tough world.

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Oct 28th, 2014 06:01 AM

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1. Christian Cross
2. Red Cross
3. Superman "S" shield

The three most widely recognized symbols in the world.

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i would have thought the star of david or the tibetan OM symbol would have been the oldest and most recognised

or the nazi swastika (and budda's form of it, the original)

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