riv6672
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God's omnipotence
I posted in the Christianity Symbolism thread yesterday about an early church experience.
Got me thinking of God's omnipotence. Googled away, and found a, to me, perfectly valid argument as to why he's not.
He cant please everybody.
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Nov 1st, 2014 03:33 PM
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How is he going to please you if you never give him any directions, c'mon!
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Nov 1st, 2014 03:40 PM
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^Haha
Well, we're always tell him to damn things.
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Nov 1st, 2014 03:41 PM
Shakyamunison
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Re: God's omnipotence
quote: (post ) Originally posted by riv6672
I posted in the Christianity Symbolism thread yesterday about an early church experience.
Got me thinking of God's omnipotence. Googled away, and found a, to me, perfectly valid argument as to why he's not.
He cant please everybody.
Any god that is a "he" or "she" is not going to be omnipotent in the first place.
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Nov 1st, 2014 03:52 PM
riv6672
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How you know? You arent omnipotent.
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Nov 1st, 2014 04:03 PM
Shakyamunison
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by riv6672
How you know? You arent omnipotent.
And I'm also a "he". The two go together.
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Nov 1st, 2014 04:11 PM
riv6672
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So you say. You arent omnipotent.
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Nov 1st, 2014 04:17 PM
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Nov 1st, 2014 04:34 PM
riv6672
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Haha, i remember that episode.
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Nov 1st, 2014 04:46 PM
Shakyamunison
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by riv6672
So you say. You arent omnipotent.
Yes, I am not omnipotent, and I am a he. Don't you see how the two go together?
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Nov 1st, 2014 05:04 PM
riv6672
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How would i know i'm not omnipotent.
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Nov 1st, 2014 05:20 PM
Shakyamunison
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by riv6672
How would i know i'm not omnipotent.
You don't need to be omnipotent to see the connection. "He" is a personification where as the concept of omnipotence is not. Therefore "he" cannot make a rock that "he" cannot lift, because you are mixing a personification with omnipotence. That doesn't take omnipotence to understand.
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Nov 1st, 2014 05:41 PM
riv6672
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It doesnt take onnipotence to fixate on one word in someone's post and try and sound smart either.
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Nov 1st, 2014 06:38 PM
Shakyamunison
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by riv6672
It doesnt take onnipotence to fixate on one word in someone's post and try and sound smart either.
I don't know what the hell you are talking about. If you are just going to be hostel and not really want to talk to other people, then why make a thread in the first place?
The idea of an omnipotent being is incomparable with calling that being a "he". It leads to silly questions like "Can god create a rock that he cannot lift?". The reason that question is silly is because we are not talking about an omnipotent god, but instead an omnipotent personification.
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Nov 1st, 2014 06:59 PM
riv6672
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I guess i cant make everyone happy.
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Nov 1st, 2014 07:29 PM
Shakyamunison
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by riv6672
I guess i cant make everyone happy.
Why would God what to make anyone happy?
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Nov 1st, 2014 07:39 PM
riv6672
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Oh puh-lease, i'm not God. At most a minor deity.
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Nov 1st, 2014 07:44 PM
Shakyamunison
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by riv6672
Oh puh-lease, i'm not God. At most a minor deity.
Your idea was that because God cannot make everyone happy, therefore he is not omnipotent.
Is that correct?
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Nov 1st, 2014 07:47 PM
riv6672
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It wasnt my idea.
I also said it was, to me, a perfectly valid argument.
I can think an argument is perfectly valid and not agree with it. I never made my actual opinion on the argument known.
So basically, stop putting words in my mouth yo.
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Nov 1st, 2014 07:55 PM
Shakyamunison
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by riv6672
It wasnt my idea.
I also said it was, to me, a perfectly valid argument.
I can think an argument is perfectly valid and not agree with it. I never made my actual opinion on the argument known.
So basically, stop putting words in my mouth yo.
I just asked you a question. A question in no way ever putting words into persons mouth.
It is a very silly argument. It assumes sense everyone is not happy, that an omnipotent God cannot be omnipotent.
What if God doesn't want everyone happy? Now the argument falls apart.
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Nov 1st, 2014 08:02 PM
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