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Greatest I am
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Faith closes the mind. It is pure idol worship.

Faith closes the mind. It is pure idol worship.

Faith is a way to quit using, "God given" power of Reason and Logic, and cause the faithful to embrace doctrines that moral people reject.

The God of the O.T. says, �Come now, and let us reason together,� [Isaiah 1:18]

How can literalists reason with God when they must ignore reason and logic and discard them when turning into literalist?

Those who are literalists can only reply somewhat in the fashion that Martin Luther did.
�Faith must trample under foot all reason, sense, and understanding.�
�Reason is a whore, the greatest enemy that faith has.�

This attitude effectively kills all worthy communication that non-theists can have with theist. Faith closes the mind as it is pure idol worship.

Literalism is an evil practice that hides the true messages of myths.

We cannot show our faith based friends that they are wrong through their faith colored glasses.

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Faith closes the mind. It is pure idol worship.

Disagree.

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Re: Faith closes the mind. It is pure idol worship.

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Originally posted by Greatest I am
Faith closes the mind. It is pure idol worship.

Faith is a way to quit using, "God given" power of Reason and Logic, and cause the faithful to embrace doctrines that moral people reject.

The God of the O.T. says, �Come now, and let us reason together,� [Isaiah 1:18]

How can literalists reason with God when they must ignore reason and logic and discard them when turning into literalist?

Those who are literalists can only reply somewhat in the fashion that Martin Luther did.
�Faith must trample under foot all reason, sense, and understanding.�
�Reason is a whore, the greatest enemy that faith has.�

This attitude effectively kills all worthy communication that non-theists can have with theist. Faith closes the mind as it is pure idol worship.

Literalism is an evil practice that hides the true messages of myths.

We cannot show our faith based friends that they are wrong through their faith colored glasses.

Regards
DL

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Originally posted by Greatest I am
Faith closes the mind. It is pure idol worship.

Faith is a way to quit using, "God given" power of Reason and Logic, and cause the faithful to embrace doctrines that moral people reject.

faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen (Hebrews 11:1)... not a copout in every argument...

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Re: Faith closes the mind. It is pure idol worship.

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Faith closes the mind. It is pure idol worship.

Faith is a way to quit using, "God given" power of Reason and Logic, and cause the faithful to embrace doctrines that moral people reject.

The God of the O.T. says, �Come now, and let us reason together,� [Isaiah 1:18]

How can literalists reason with God when they must ignore reason and logic and discard them when turning into literalist?

Those who are literalists can only reply somewhat in the fashion that Martin Luther did.
�Faith must trample under foot all reason, sense, and understanding.�
�Reason is a whore, the greatest enemy that faith has.�

This attitude effectively kills all worthy communication that non-theists can have with theist. Faith closes the mind as it is pure idol worship.

Literalism is an evil practice that hides the true messages of myths.

We cannot show our faith based friends that they are wrong through their faith colored glasses.

Regards
DL

I would say all faith, but blind faith and literalism does trap the mind.

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Re: Re: Faith closes the mind. It is pure idol worship.

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I would say all faith, but blind faith and literalism does trap the mind.

Typo

I wouldn't say all faith, but...

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Greatest I am
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Thanks to all.

I see that believers deny my claim yet do not deny that they are idol worshipers.

You believers also offer no apology against me and thus show that I am basically correct.

If you could refute me in any way, you know you would.

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DL

Dec 4th, 2014 05:29 PM

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Thanks to all.

I see that believers deny my claim yet do not deny that they are idol worshipers.

You believers also offer no apology against me and thus show that I am basically correct.

If you could refute me in any way, you know you would.

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DL

ah no... don't patronize yourself... i see at least two others (besides myself) disagreeing with what you said... faith comes with reason, and vice-versa in Christianity...

Dec 8th, 2014 04:35 AM

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ah no... don't patronize yourself... i see at least two others (besides myself) disagreeing with what you said... faith comes with reason, and vice-versa in Christianity...

Reason and logic do not mix with faith. Faith without facts is for fools and you have no facts that you can show for following what can be shown to be an immoral son murdering prick of a God.

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DL

Dec 22nd, 2014 06:08 PM

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Reason and logic do not mix with faith. Faith without facts is for fools and you have no facts that you can show for following what can be shown to be an immoral son murdering prick of a God.

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DL

What stops you from killing yourself? Is it because you have faith that perhaps tomorrow will be better than today?

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What stops you from killing yourself? Is it because you have faith that perhaps tomorrow will be better than today?

It's deeper then that. We all have an instinct to survive.

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It's deeper then that. We all have an instinct to survive.

But doesn't rational thought supersede instinct? I mean the way that he was writing you would think so. Right?

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But doesn't rational thought supersede instinct? I mean the way that he was writing you would think so. Right?

No, he's just as delusional as you are. wink

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No, he's just as delusional as you are.

There's a little room left in the boat for you by the way.

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Re: Faith closes the mind. It is pure idol worship.

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Originally posted by Greatest I am
Faith closes the mind. It is pure idol worship.

Faith is a way to quit using, "God given" power of Reason and Logic, and cause the faithful to embrace doctrines that moral people reject.

The God of the O.T. says, �Come now, and let us reason together,� [Isaiah 1:18]

How can literalists reason with God when they must ignore reason and logic and discard them when turning into literalist?

Those who are literalists can only reply somewhat in the fashion that Martin Luther did.
�Faith must trample under foot all reason, sense, and understanding.�
�Reason is a whore, the greatest enemy that faith has.�

This attitude effectively kills all worthy communication that non-theists can have with theist. Faith closes the mind as it is pure idol worship.

Literalism is an evil practice that hides the true messages of myths.

We cannot show our faith based friends that they are wrong through their faith colored glasses.

Regards
DL

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You must lead a miserable life.

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Shakyamunison
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Re: Re: Faith closes the mind. It is pure idol worship.

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You must lead a miserable life.

So, you think that people who are of a religion then you live a miserable life? roll eyes (sarcastic)

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If you could refute me in any way, you know you would.

Why would I do that? You seem happy with your beliefs, should I coerce you into stopping thinking the way you do?

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So, you think that people who are of a religion then you live a miserable life?

Did I say that? I'm only making an observation based on the tone of most of his posts/threads.

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Did I say that? I'm only making an observation based on the tone of most of his posts/threads.

You should also read what people say to him.

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