the answer to your first three questions is: NO...
why combine two different verses? the passage on Genesis 3:22 was said in the time of Adam while Matthew 5:48 was said by Jesus in His preachings... you condemn literal reading but you are being literal yourself...
From what I've gathered Greatest is being literal in his readings on propose because he despises literal readings of the Bible.
I, personally, don't see the value of that general strategy, specially considering the literal readers in this site are a very slim (or at least mostly silent) minority.
It's not the tree of knowledge it's the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Evil didn't exist prior to the original sin, so man couldn't have know about it.
And God forbade Adam and Eve to eat from the tree, and clarified that they'd die if they did.
And the Book of Mathew does not apply to the garden of Eden.
So technically the state of Lucifer's fall from grace is "it hasn't happened yet"? Does that mean he's still in Heaven and hasn't tried to overcome God? For whatever reason I had that event prior to the creation of men, but I guess that could also work.
A war did happen in Heaven, and still continues this day. Satan was cast from Heaven, and fell to Earth.
Revelation 12:7-12 talks about the casting out of Satan-two times. One was at the beginning when he rebelled in Heaven, just before creation of life on earth, and the second was at Calvary.
And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. (Revelation 12:7-9)
This war was in Heaven; two groups against each other-
Michael and the loyal angels on one side, and Satan and his angels on the other side. In this first battle Satan and his sympathizers lost their place in Heaven. They were thrown out from Heaven to earth.
Obviously, this earth was still uninhabited. It was "without form and void and darkness was on the face of the deep" (Genesis 1:2).
God had to throw him out of Heaven into a particular place. As the whole universe is God's, Satan had to be somewhere in God's vast creation. And earth was the place.
And when God created life on planet earth (according to His prior plan and set time), He warned Adam and Eve of this wily foe.
Satan would not have got a hold on this planet had Adam and Eve stood the simplest of test, just once! God then would have cut short the time period of Satan.
Also it is not a sin to seek knowledge, it is what a person does with that knowledge. This is something that should be common knowledge, nor should it be difficult to realize.
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Too much knowledge is evil because it brings into question the authority of the Church.
If people had real knowledge they might invent things like science and discover that the Earth is not flat, and the heavens are not filled with angels.
"It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to dwell in;"
Isaiah 40:22
Hebrew word chuwg (H2329) means circle, sphere, circuit, compass...
Neither is the issue. Let's assume there are pertinent passages because religion is somehow valid, how do we deal with possible interpretations of those texts? For religious people it's a legitimate problem unless they are literalists or follow orthodox rules without thinking.
It almost makes you wonder why God created a death fruit tree in the Garden of Eden.
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