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Do you think that torturing a baby is ever justified?

Do you think that torturing a baby is ever justified?

Have you seen this rather well done movie?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx7irFN2gdI

They end asking about a God who tortures babies as God did to King David’s baby.
God also killed many innocent babies in his great flood as well as the innocent first born of Egypt.

http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot...kills-baby.html

Do you think that torturing a baby is ever justified?

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No.


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No.


And your thoughts on the bible God that does?

Many Christians say no but say God can do whatever he likes because he created us and owns us.

I hope you are better than those.

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It needs to be said that not a single evil act God did was "justified". It has only ever been just in a "right makes right" kind of way.


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Do you think that torturing a baby is ever justified?

Yes, as long as it's only baby Hitler. stick out tongue


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Though torturing God as a baby would be even more okay then Hitler as a baby.

Well, we know the true reason Jesus got put down. Sins of the father and all that.


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Give that you cite the Bible, I'm assuming this is a Christian question. The Bible has the potential sacrificing of Isaac, Isaac had a clue as to what was going on. Christianity seems to be centered on the crucifixion of Christ. Also, there are OT references to killing infants (e.g. Egypt last plague). I believe anyone subscribing to Judaeo-Christian belief must accept that infant torture could be justified.


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And your thoughts on the bible God that does?

Many Christians say no but say God can do whatever he likes because he created us and owns us.

I hope you are better than those.

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The god from the bible is a tyrant, in my opinion.


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The god from the bible is a tyrant, in my opinion.


Heh, calling God merely a tyrant is like calling a KKK Grand Wizard merely a "little bit" racist.

We are talking about..the worst tyrants in human history don't even hold a candle to good ol' Yahweh.


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The god from the bible is a tyrant, in my opinion.



I guess it's a good thing then that God doesn't really care about your opinion.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx7irFN2gdI
An alternative metaphor to the Abrahamic God...

"God...likes to play hide-and-seek, but because there is nothing outside God, he has no one but himself to play with. But he gets over this difficulty by pretending that he is not himself. This is his way of hiding from himself. He pretends that he is you and I and all the people in the world, all the animals, all the plants, all the rocks, and all the stars. In this way he has strange and wonderful adventures, some of which are terrible and frightening. But these are just like bad dreams, for when he wakes up they will disappear.

"You may ask why God sometimes hides in the form of horrible people, or pretends to be people who suffer great disease and pain. Remember, first, that he isn't really doing this to anyone but himself. Remember, too, that in almost all the stories you enjoy there have to be bad people as well as good people, for the thrill of the tale is to find out how the good people will get the better of the bad."


-- Alan Watts, excerpt from, The Book: the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are


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I guess it's a good thing then that God doesn't really care about your opinion.


How in the hell would you know?


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I guess it is also a good thing that God being a tyrant isn't just an opinion.

Also please, just stop: if God did not care about peoples opinions then the f*cker wouldn't include a bunch of commandments about how you can't worship other people or any of that. Yep, totally sounds like someone who doesn't care!


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I guess it's a good thing then that God doesn't really care about your opinion.


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if God did not care about peoples opinions then the f*cker wouldn't include a bunch of commandments about how you can't worship other people or any of that. Yep, totally sounds like someone who doesn't care!


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It needs to be said that not a single evil act God did was "justified". It has only ever been just in a "right makes right" kind of way.


I agree and see that as quite immoral.

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Do you think that torturing a baby is ever justified?

Yes, as long as it's only baby Hitler. stick out tongue


Yes but then God would have to answer for creating the little monster in the first place.

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Though torturing God as a baby would be even more okay then Hitler as a baby.

Well, we know the true reason Jesus got put down. Sins of the father and all that.


20/20

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Give that you cite the Bible, I'm assuming this is a Christian question. The Bible has the potential sacrificing of Isaac, Isaac had a clue as to what was going on. Christianity seems to be centered on the crucifixion of Christ. Also, there are OT references to killing infants (e.g. Egypt last plague). I believe anyone subscribing to Judaeo-Christian belief must accept that infant torture could be justified.


And many do, --- showing how a religion can corrupt a persons morals.

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The god from the bible is a tyrant, in my opinion.


I agree. If he and hell were real, he would belong in it.

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DL

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I guess it's a good thing then that God doesn't really care about your opinion.


Huh??

Then why does he threaten to send us to hell for putting a better God above him, which is what any moral person would do?

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DL

P.S.
Are you going to answer the question in the O.P?

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