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Islam creates Islamophobia - "Allah: The Author of Islamophobia"

I don't care that David is a Christian apologist and is wrong at times, this is pure genius:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chT_SjY9zM8

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Islmaphobia gets thrown around so much these days, but what isn't discussed is Islamaphilia. The sick fascination with this religion and how some will defend the religion from things that they would not defend had people from other religions(like Christianity) done the same things.

Oh fun fact, the other guy in that video runs Jihad Watch. Which has been wrongly labeled a "hate group" by the Southern Poverty Law Center.


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Islmaphobia gets thrown around so much these days, but what isn't discussed is Islamaphilia. The sick fascination with this religion and how some will defend the religion from things that they would not defend had people from other religions(like Christianity) done the same things.

Oh fun fact, the other guy in that video runs Jihad Watch. Which has been wrongly labeled a "hate group" by the Southern Poverty Law Center.


True. Islamophobia is a bullshit term that doesn't exist, Muslims love using it to have the victim status, it is all part of the first stage of Jihad and Taqiyya.

And by the way, I want to ask you this: Do you see anything wrong with David Wood as a critic of Islam? You've made it clear that you're not religious. As much David does a great job of dismantling Islam, it's hard to forget that he's also a Christian apologist. Being a Christian apologist puts David under a risk of scientific inaccuracy and error, and Christianity itself is something that can be criticised and questioned (I as a somewhat unorthodox Christian have done this to the Bible). There are plenty of non-religious critics of Islam who won't have this risk, David has this risk and could be criticised for being a hypocrite for dismantling the shit out of one religion but not doing the same to his own.

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What's going to get a little annoying is having this topic spread out over dozens of threads because you make a new one every time this guy posts a new video.


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It is interesting, but their smug and sarcastic tone is not helping their message.

The main point being: a 'phobia' is an extreme, irrational fear, but obviously there are many perfectly rational reasons to fear Islam. I completely agree. The term "Islamophobia" is a ridiculous fabrication.

The little jab at atheists didn't really make any sense. There are "spiritual forces" at work because this crazy, diabolical ignorance is still around today manipulating people? People still believing irrational bullshit is not proof of the existence of "spiritual forces." If that were the case we would be seeing Jesus walk on water and turn water into wine, but we don't. And how convenient it is to say that, "Oh, well, miracles happened back then, but God decided to change the physical laws of the universe to a more constant status..."


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Indeed that is what people do not get, a phobia is an irrational fear. Take spiders. A fear of spiders is a phobia. If we lived in a world where even the smallest spiders were the size of a small car....yeah, it's not a phobia because there is a legit reason to fear.

In Islam there are circumstances where lying is okay. Remember even lying to save your life isn't exactly seen to be that good of a thing in the bible. To take it a step further, there are circumstances where rape and murder are okay. A woman is married? No rapey. But if you captured her? Rape-apalooza.

If these beliefs had been left back in the dark ages where they belong it would be one thing, but they are right here today. We are allies with some of these abhorrent people and before people scream "Trump" it was long before Trump. Trump wasn't in office when a soldier was punished for beating down an Afghan commander who had kept a little kid chained to a bed for 2 weeks and raped the kid repeatedly. Rules of "marry the guy who raped you or go to jail" are also not the stuff of the past in certain parts of the world. Just like if you are gay in some of these countries your prize is a free cordless bungee jumping lesson.

Anyone irrationally afraid yet?


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Indeed that is what people do not get, a phobia is an irrational fear. Take spiders. A fear of spiders is a phobia. If we lived in a world where even the smallest spiders were the size of a small car....yeah, it's not a phobia because there is a legit reason to fear.


I wouldn't call a fear of spiders completely irrational. They can be deadly. And besides there is an ingrained fear of creepy crawlies in our evolutionary DNA. Now, I once saw a Maury Povich show (or something) where someone was actually afraid of lettuce. That is an irrational fear.


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We are allies with some of these abhorrent people and before people scream "Trump" it was long before Trump.


Yeah, that disgusts me. Our friendship with Saudi Arabia is repulsive. That might have something to do with why there is such a push to defend Islam against all odds. Of course it was long before Trump.. who is saying it wasn't?


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Just look at Ayaan Hirisi Ali, and her treatment. Yeah, Saudi Arabia might have something to do with Brandesis's 180 on her honorary degree, because NOTHING she said was "islamophobic" (Oh no, she's speaking out against genital mutilation and subjugation of women. ISLAMOPHOBE.)


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Just look at Ayaan Hirisi Ali, and her treatment. Yeah, Saudi Arabia might have something to do with Brandesis's 180 on her honorary degree, because NOTHING she said was "islamophobic" (Oh no, she's speaking out against genital mutilation and subjugation of women. ISLAMOPHOBE.)


Yep, and she is listed by the SPLC as an anti-muslim extremist lol. That just shows how utterly warped the views are of the people in charge there.

Which is unfortunate because I assume the place has some groups that legitimately deserved to be called out listed on their site. You actually just help those legit hate groups out when you lump them in with people who do not belong there.

This is what some on the left do not understand about their actions. They are helping actual hate groups and also at times giving them an excuse to play the victim. Since they love to hate nazis they should know it is not like nobody ever fought back against the nazis, especially early on. Sometimes those people even won the day(I am talking about instances where only physical violence was used, and again this was early on before Hitler rose to power). But the nazis just turned it into propaganda and used it as an excuse to claim victimhood, to claim they were being oppressed.


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Left wings don't realise that they're leading themselves to their own death or submission to Muslims.

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Honestly, the thought leaders are so ridiculously into "triggering" their base, it almost makes an othereise sensible person wonder if when the lights go off and the cameras fade out, they shake each others hands and say "That was perfect. That ought to hold the SOB's for another month or so."

"I'm'a go snort coke with my Nambla friende. You in?"


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Originally posted by Patient_Leech
It is interesting, but their smug and sarcastic tone is not helping their message.


Ironic and probably true.

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there are many perfectly rational reasons to fear Islam.


No major disagreement here ...



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The little jab at atheists didn't really make any sense. There are "spiritual forces" at work because this crazy, diabolical ignorance is still around today manipulating people?


Makes quite a bit of sense. 14 HUNDRED years?
Exactly how slow is the process of enlightenment?

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People still believing irrational b.s. is not proof of the existence of "spiritual forces."


Perhaps, but, honestly, what, concretely, ever COULD prove the existence of spiritual forces? Best case scenario I can envision is people convincing themselves mass hypnosis or some group hallucination phenomenon had occurred. Anyone seeing televised proof would merely think themselves media hoaxed.

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If that were the case we would be seeing Jesus walk on water and turn water into wine, but we don't. And how convenient it is to say that, "Oh, well, miracles happened back then, but God decided to change the physical laws of the universe to a more constant status..."


I don't see how the first sentence of this section of your quote relates to the sentence that preceded. DID you actually mean them to go together, or did you edit something out?

Serious question.


Regarding miracles, though, the standard form of the argument you seem to be trying to make is that the physical laws were constant way back when, too.
If they weren't, the miracles would not have been considered miraculous, rather a randomly occurring, but plausibly to be expected event.

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Left wings don't realise that they're leading themselves to their own death or submission to Muslims.


I especially do not understand how it is the liberals view Islam the way they do. People like Bill Maher, who openly speak out against it, are anomalies among liberals. Yet, they love a cause...especially when it has to do with gender or race. The way women are treated in a lot of Muslim dominant countries is horrible, and hell the way the religion of Islam itself says you can treat women is awful.

Yet they do not seem to be as outraged about how Muslims treat their women in certain countries. They should be very outraged and very opposed to a woman like Linda Sarsour and yet they are not. How is this possible? Here is one thing Linda tweeted:

"You'll know when you're living under Sharia Law if suddenly all your loans & credit cards become interest free. Sound nice, doesn't it?"

Yet they behave the exact opposite you would think, they go after liberal feminists who dare to talk about Islam. They even consider it hate speech to merely say Islam is not a religion of peace. The truth is hate speech, in other words.


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Makes quite a bit of sense. 14 HUNDRED years?
Exactly how slow is the process of enlightenment?


The continued presence of human ignorance and gullibility is not proof of "spiritual forces." So no, it doesn't make any sense. It's a non sequitur. It's the same kind of mental and spiritual gymnastics that assholes like this guy do all the time by looking at the beauty of the natural world and suddenly declaring the truth of the Bible or Koran. It's an unwarranted jump in logic.


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I don't see how the first sentence of this section of your quote relates to the sentence that preceded. DID you actually mean them to go together, or did you edit something out?

Serious question.


I didn't exactly connect the two thoughts very well, I'll admit. Allow me to revise what I said...

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The little jab at atheists didn't really make any sense. There are "spiritual forces" at work because this crazy, diabolical ignorance is still around today manipulating people? People still believing irrational bullshit is not proof of the existence of "spiritual forces." If Christianity were true and Jesus had performed all those miracles defying physics as we now know it, then we should be seeing people like Jesus walk on water and turn water into wine, but we don't. And how convenient it is to say that, "Oh, well, miracles happened back then, but God decided to change the physical laws of the universe to a more constant status not allowing miracles anymore..."


^ Revised. It reminds me of the sort of backpeddling that Creationists do in trying to refute the age of the earth. "Oh, but how do we know that radiometric dating has stayed the same?"


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This makes me sick if true, this is the first I heard of this even though it is from April:

'Shariah cop' cracks down on Minnesota Muslims

"A 22-year-old Muslim convert has been denounced for trying to enforce Shariah law on Somali refugees living in Minneapolis, but he says he’s just trying to be a good Muslim and please Allah.

Abdullah Rashid married a Somali woman and moved from his hometown in Walton County, Georgia, to Wyoming and then on to Minnesota last year. Formerly Devon James Miller, Rashid now dresses in traditional Islamic headdress. But when he isn’t in a turban, he wears a green uniform with a patch marking him as the “religious police.”

That’s causing quite a stir, even in the Muslim enclave of Minneapolis’s Cedar Riverside community.

In a recent interview with the Minneapolis Star-Tribune, Rashid said he aims to turn the city’s Cedar-Riverside area into a “sharia-controlled zone” where Muslims are learning about the proper practices of Islam and that “non-Muslims are asked to respect” it"


Wtf? No, there can never ever be sharia-controlled zones in this country. That doesn't fly.

"He pays regular visits to Somali households and makes sure the women are dressed in compliance with Islamic law, that no alcohol is being consumed and that nobody is interacting with the opposite sex. He is performing, in his mind, a service similar to that of the morality police who enforce Shariah in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Somalia or the Islamic State.

He claims to have 10 other men working under him to patrol the Cedar Riverside community."


What a piece of shit.

"There are other troubling aspects to Rashid’s mission, such as his display of the al-Qaida flag and his adoration of Anwar al-Awlaki, the American-born imam of Yemeni descent who was a spiritual leader of al-Qaida before he was killed in Yemen by a drone strike ordered by President Obama."

Just wow, and I only saw this story because it was mentioned in a more recent and more disturbing story:

Coming To A Town Near You: Expert Warns That No-Go Zones Are Growing In America


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^ Disturbing.


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I especially do not understand how it is the liberals view Islam the way they do. People like Bill Maher, who openly speak out against it, are anomalies among liberals. Yet, they love a cause...especially when it has to do with gender or race. The way women are treated in a lot of Muslim dominant countries is horrible, and hell the way the religion of Islam itself says you can treat women is awful.

Yet they do not seem to be as outraged about how Muslims treat their women in certain countries. They should be very outraged and very opposed to a woman like Linda Sarsour and yet they are not. How is this possible? Here is one thing Linda tweeted:

"You'll know when you're living under Sharia Law if suddenly all your loans & credit cards become interest free. Sound nice, doesn't it?"

Yet they behave the exact opposite you would think, they go after liberal feminists who dare to talk about Islam. They even consider it hate speech to merely say Islam is not a religion of peace. The truth is hate speech, in other words.


As someone who was once a Muslim, I think liberals sympathise with Muslims and Islam because of the media's propaganda against Islam which Muslims keep treating as "misconceptions", and liberals that at face value. That's all I can really say to be honest.

Or... Liberals are just victims to the Taqiyya and first stage of Jihad.

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I won't make any more David Wood threads for each of his videos, I'll post his other videos in here from now on. Here's The Truth about Ramadan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGysOICFRlk

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As someone who was once a Muslim, I think liberals sympathise with Muslims and Islam because of the media's propaganda against Islam which Muslims keep treating as "misconceptions", and liberals that at face value. That's all I can really say to be honest.

Or... Liberals are just victims to the Taqiyya and first stage of Jihad.


And they'd throw a fit if the media gave white supremacists the same propaganda. Oh well, leftists are their own worst enemies. Even if you're the 2nd person to slip under the waves and drown instead of the first...well, you died with the moral high ground.


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And they'd throw a fit if the media gave white supremacists the same propaganda. Oh well, leftists are their own worst enemies. Even if you're the 2nd person to slip under the waves and drown instead of the first...well, you died with the moral high ground.


Yup, but I'd also say that the media is blind to the fact that you can also discriminate white people too. Just take a look at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jdl_EAznMgc

This video was never shown in any news networks in the UK, but if there was video footage of a white man doing this to a Muslim, everyone would go crazy and the news would put it as a main story.

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