CHUCK NORRIS CAN ROUND HOUSE KICK WITH HIS HANDS.
CHUCK NORRIS HAS A BEARD MADE OF FIRE.
CHUCK NORRIS MADE THE EARTH ROUND.
CHUCK NORRIS INVENTED WOOD.
Not to mention it looks like Zack will fight Bahamut in Crisis Core. Zack was outstanding in the last order anime. His speed was off the charts, and he completely pawned a hand of ShinRa grunts with his barehands while they were loaded with guns and swords.
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Odin toyed with the party, he could have one shotted them at anytime, but chose to designate a time for when he would use Zantetsuken. He was not weak.
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Odin's sword also is the strongest one in the entire game. Gilgamesh is like an inter-dimensional collector of the mighteist blades and even when he got his hands on Odin's Zanetsuken, he couldn't kill Seifer.
Also, FFVII Odin has no feats so saying FVIII's is weaker kinda is baseless.
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Seifer has never lost to Squall 1 on 1, notice he needs to have his whole parties help, as in not just two partners, the whole party, as the other members don't just stand there watching their friends die.
And obviously they have gotten a bit stronger since they captured Odin.
Seifer was equal to Squall in the beginning, weaker than Squall at the end of Disk 1 but stronger than Squall in every fight after this.
Storywise, Squall always needs two other people to fight Seifer.
Plus DJ is right. See the Seifer Respect Thread to see how Seifer owns' Odin during the Zanetsuken while Squall and te party all die when Odin unleashes it on them.
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