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Sephiroth vs. Ultimecia

Apparently, Sephiroth is the single most powerful character in all of the games made by Square-Enix.

I respectfully, disagree.

This is AC Sephiroth vs. Time Compressed Ultimecia.

Who wins?


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I'm not a FF expert or fan. I only played X, but my friends say that Ultemecia was like the actual universe and reality of that game. If she was able to warp the world and do whatever she liked then I guess she stomps Sephiroth who IMO is overrated. What exactly can she do though?


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Ultimecia is just as overrated as Sephiroth is.


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Ultimecia is just as overrated as Sephiroth is.


Doubt it seeing as I rarely hear about her everywhere I go, but ever Con has everyone and ther grandma dressed as Sephiroth and claiming that he is the god of all that is cool. Square doesn't milk Ultimecia like they do Sephiroth.


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Ultimecia is just as overrated as Sephiroth is.

I dont know about that because i never heard of ultimecia until now, and i always hear about sephiroth. then again ive never played a ff game.


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ultemecia is barely talked about, due to the fact that the last disk of ff8 was kinda crap erm
she is nowhere near as overrated as seph is..


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Time Compression Ultimecia was basically in control over the entire universe at all times. Squall and Co only defeated her because fate deemed that they would. Poor Sephiroth has no chance here, TC Ultimecia is undeniably the most powerful villain in the FF series.


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Time Compression Ultimecia was basically in control over the entire universe at all times. Squall and Co only defeated her because fate deemed that they would. Poor Sephiroth has no chance here, TC Ultimecia is undeniably the most powerful villain in the FF series.
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Holy sh1t.

This thing is dang powerful.

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Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Time Compression Ultimecia was basically in control over the entire universe at all times.


No. She was using TC to absorb the universe, and then, gain control over it(because she would basically, become the universe itself).
But she was defeated before absorbing everything, and therefore, never gained control over the entire universe at all times.



And KN7JL3... If you want to know more about Ultimecia, just go to her Respect Thread.



Ah, and Ultimecia rapes Seph.

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I said she's overrated, not overused.

She's not nearly as powerful as people who do talk about her make her.


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Other than the fact that she was literally able to absorb all of reality and was doing so during the final battle, she can take absract concepts from people's minds and make Guardian Forces from them, she has the entire half of the Great Hyne granted to humanity(in other words, every Sorceress power), and was able to compress time to one single moment(although, this particular feat took a while).

Oh and SHM, was it ever stated she needed Time Compression to absorb the universe? I thought she only did Time Compression so she can absorb all space, AND time?


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Oh and SHM, was it ever stated she needed Time Compression to absorb the universe? I thought she only did Time Compression so she can absorb all space, AND time?


The Scans and Tutorials, states that she was using TC to absorb the power of all sorceresses in history.
And in her final form, it states that she was "absorbing all existence".

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Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Doubt it seeing as I rarely hear about her everywhere I go, but ever Con has everyone and ther grandma dressed as Sephiroth and claiming that he is the god of all that is cool. Square doesn't milk Ultimecia like they do Sephiroth.
Square doesn't do the milking.. it's the fans who like Sephiroth.. fans just don't happen to like Ultimecia much and FF8 was just sort of lack luster compared to FF7

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she has the entire half of the Great Hyne granted to humanity(in other words, every Sorceress power),

when you're talking about cosmic levels and things pertaining to the entire universe then a having an entire half of a power granted to humanity isn't anything impressive at all.. considering how huge the universe is compared to Earth.. Earth is smaller than a single grain of sand in the ocean compared to the size of the universe

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Sephiroth wins, but I also remember the producer saying that the only person from any Squareenix game that could beat Seph is Ultemecia, so I won't be surprised if Ultemecia wins, but do I think she can do it, probably not.

Sephiroth by, I say 6-8/10


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Time Compression Ultimecia was basically in control over the entire universe at all times. Squall and Co only defeated her because fate deemed that they would. Poor Sephiroth has no chance here, TC Ultimecia is undeniably the most powerful villain in the FF series.


Do you honestly think that just because Squall and Co were deemed to win means that Sephiroth can't win? laughing out loud , f*****g hilarious. Squall and Co together probably couldn't beat Sephiroth, and they won't be deemed to win against Sephiroth. It would just be skill and skill vs even more skill.


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Do you honestly think that just because Squall and Co were deemed to win means that Sephiroth can't win? laughing out loud , f*****g hilarious. Squall and Co together probably couldn't beat Sephiroth, and they won't be deemed to win against Sephiroth. It would just be skill and skill vs even more skill.


Squall and Co had massive amounts of PIS on their side, unfortunately for Sephy there would be nothing to stop Ultimecia from simply erasing him from the universe at every point on the timeline.


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Square doesn't do the milking.. it's the fans who like Sephiroth.. fans just don't happen to like Ultimecia much and FF8 was just sort of lack luster compared to FF7
No matter your view-point, Ultimecia was unarguably absorbing all of reality, and she also had every Sorceress Power.

Great Hyne, granted that power, but it turns out that "half" of him was much weaker than the other half.

Hyne is essentially the most powerful being in all of Final Fantasy, although we never actually "see" him in the game.

Wil7, prove it. If you can't, STFU and GTFO, an outlandish claim like that necessitates proof, considering all evidence points to Ultimecia's obvious superiority.

And Squall and friends defeated Ultimecia through Love and Friendship, which, as you should already know if you have watched Digimon, is the most powerful force in all existence.


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for the last time she was not absorbing reality.. she was compressing time and she failed at it.. plus she wasn't even doing it on her own.. she used Edea.. Rinoa and Adel and a machine.. not to mention that Squall and them only let her proceed just so they could get to her and kill her lol.. am i the only one who actually played the game?

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for the last time she was not absorbing reality.. she was compressing time and she failed at it.. plus she wasn't even doing it on her own.. she used Edea.. Rinoa and Adel and a machine.. not to mention that Squall and them only let her proceed just so they could get to her and kill her lol.. am i the only one who actually played the game?


You really need to read Ultimecia's Respect Thread.

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Sephiroth wins, but I also remember the producer saying that the only person from any Squareenix game that could beat Seph is Ultemecia
'kay, sup with all this nonsense about producer said this and that. The only thing I think is right as far as that goes is Seph is strongest entity in FF7. And even if what you said is true does it apply to all future Square Enix games? e.g. Infinite Undiscovery/Last Remnant?

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