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Regigigas vs the LoKverse

To see if two particular members can admit anything from this verse loses. And since I know some will contest the validity of the Pokedex, I declare his entries canon in this thread. I will begin with the story.

Arceus has begun to observe the LoK verse out of sheer curiosity, and he does not like what he sees. He fills himself with JUSTICE! and decides to send his most physically powerful servant, Regigigas, to destroy its inhabitants. Before he does so, he grants his servant a few buffs.

Regigigas now has no Slow Start ability, instead, he now has two others. The first is Mold Breaker which bypasses abilities that hinder attacks so that Regigigas can strike the Elder God. His second is Anticipation, which grants Regigigas knowledge of any potentially dangerous moves possessed by the opponent such as Soul Stealing or TK. He has full access to his entire movepool. He has also been granted access to the move Surf.

Regigigas will make two attempts. The first is with only the above abilities.

The second is with a third ability, Huge Power, which will double his strength. I was going to give him Klutz, but that would be spite against Kain.

Regigigas has to fight every creature in LoK one on one in both rounds. Can he win?


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Bait, I have admitted many times that entities from this verse lose, just not your beloved games it seems, hence your antagonistic and sore behaviour.

But anyway, onto this thread what can this thing do? I know Arceus apprently made the universe or at least the pokemon who made it, he was the beginning. What about Regigigas? whats he done of note?


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He can pull entire continents, so he is physically stronger than anything in LoK. Other than that I do not know.

He should logically have all the feats of the other Regi-Pokemanz too I guess.


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By "pull continenents" what do you mean? you mean he pushed the tectonic plates of a continent? or detached them somehow?

If his feats are of strength then hes one of those things that will have be combated through sorcery. As large as the EG is, not sure if it could ever lift the continent it resides under. Assuming EG is only continent sized and not planet sized ofc....


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By "pull continenents" what do you mean? you mean he pushed the tectonic plates of a continent? or detached them somehow?

If his feats are of strength then hes one of those things that will have be combated through sorcery. As large as the EG is, not sure if it could ever lift the continent it resides under. Assuming EG is only continent sized and not planet sized ofc....
He pulled them on a rope or chain... Yeah, Pokemon is pretty stupid sometimes.


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He towed continents using ropes. Other than that he has a lot of elemental abilities with moves like Fire Punch and Ice Punch. Some of his moves are things you'd expect from someone with that level of strength, like Earthquake and Superpower.

He also has stuff like Hidden Power which basically does whatever it's written to do, which so far has ranged from an attack to a healing move. And Confuse Ray which he used to basically mind control other Pokemon. Double Team to make a number of duplicates of itself. He also has an energy sapping move called Drain Punch.

Meh, take a look.

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/regigigas/moves


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He pulled them on a rope or chain... Yeah, Pokemon is pretty stupid sometimes.
LOL, sometimes. Reg takes this by pulling EG out of his hole.


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Are those his canon moves or just those he can learn in the games? (I assume youve allowed him to have them anyway).

Hows he protecting his soul and blood? or his mind from mental manipulation? also, how would he combat the circle of nine and their dome of reality warping?

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LOL, sometimes. Reg takes this by pulling EG out of his hole.


That would be stupid, pulling the EG from the continent would only allow it to consume him amongst its tentacles, if its got no durability feats then its getting crushed under a barrage of multiplying regenerating apendages.


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It's supposed to be harder than diamond or some stupid crap.


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Pulling a continent is a durability feat.

Massive understatement of course.


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If it's just a dome of reality warping, I'd imagine you have to go inside it to get warped. Probably just smashes things from the outside.


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Pulling a continent is a durability feat.

Massive understatement of course.



No its not, if hes got the strength to pull the continent then its like the world strongest man being able to pull a truck. He still could not survive that truck running over him. I am cynical on how strong this thing actually is, this whole "pulling continent on a rope" sounds peculier and I would like to see it.



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If it's just a dome of reality warping, I'd imagine you have to go inside it to get warped. Probably just smashes things from the outside.


Its an ever expanding dome that gets bigger as time passes. Its going to have to deal with it eventually and it likely cant. Not without attemping to get to the mages within the dome. How is it protecting its soul, hows it surviving time powers?


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I don't know that time matters outside of a BFR. Regigigas is likely immortal, it's been sleeping for I forget how long.

I don't know that it has blood either. The reason it has green feet is because it slept for long enough to let Moss grow on it.

Soul doesn't matter since the SR has to break the skin for that. I also gave it Anticipation for that.

As for the dome, can it be destroyed?


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No its not, if hes got the strength to pull the continent then its like the world strongest man being able to pull a truck. He still could not survive that truck running over him. I am cynical on how strong this thing actually is, this whole "pulling continent on a rope" sounds peculier and I would like to see it.



No.

That would also be a durability feat for the strongman as well. His bones have been strengthened to the point that he can resist such forces being imposed on him with relative ease. Albeit that's a feat that is very much in the realm of human capability anyway. Every strength feat requires the necessary durability needed to pull them off.

Who said anything about him surviving a blow from the truck itself?

Pulling a continent though, wow. There's nothing the relatively meek (as far as power output goes) Lok verse can do to match the stresses associated with something like that.

Using a rope, as we think of the word, would be ludicrous of course and then you could disregard the feat as hogwash altogether. Although I'm sure there's some mysticism involved with said rope.


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I declared his few Pokedex entries canon anyway. Because if I hadn't BT would argue just that for the entirety of this thread.


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Let's say the rope is magic then.


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No.

That would also be a durability feat for the strongman as well. His bones have been strengthened to the point that he can resist such forces being imposed on him with relative ease. Albeit that's a feat that is very much in the realm of human capability anyway. Every strength feat requires the necessary durability needed to pull them off.

Who said anything about him surviving a blow from the truck itself?

Pulling a continent though, wow. There's nothing the relatively meek (as far as power output goes) Lok verse can do to match the stresses associated with something like that.

Using a rope, as we think of the word, would be ludicrous of course and then you could disregard the feat as hogwash altogether. Although I'm sure there's some mysticism involved with said rope.


With your flawed logic I'm bulletproof since I can easily hold a bullet.


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With your flawed logic I'm bulletproof since I can easily hold a bullet.


I have a recommendation, don't be a retard.


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I don't know that time matters outside of a BFR. Regigigas is likely immortal, it's been sleeping for I forget how long.

I don't know that it has blood either. The reason it has green feet is because it slept for long enough to let Moss grow on it.

Soul doesn't matter since the SR has to break the skin for that. I also gave it Anticipation for that.

As for the dome, can it be destroyed?


It just means that it would be unable to do anything to stop some mages from expanding the reality dome over it and transforming/destroying it.

Youve not given a lot of info on it tbh, can you get some more? does it have blood, does it need to breathe, things like that...

No it doesnt, and your talking as if the Soul reaver is the only soul devouring thing in the LoKverse, both Kain and Mortanius have spirit rip which is simply a spell that goes straight at the soul without requiring any contact. Also what is anticipation? you used gameplay mechanics?

no, its ethereal. Kain walked through it, its not physical.

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No.

That would also be a durability feat for the strongman as well. His bones have been strengthened to the point that he can resist such forces being imposed on him with relative ease. Albeit that's a feat that is very much in the realm of human capability anyway. Every strength feat requires the necessary durability needed to pull them off.

Who said anything about him surviving a blow from the truck itself?

Pulling a continent though, wow. There's nothing the relatively meek (as far as power output goes) Lok verse can do to match the stresses associated with something like that.

Using a rope, as we think of the word, would be ludicrous of course and then you could disregard the feat as hogwash altogether. Although I'm sure there's some mysticism involved with said rope.


Sin has a point, your whole argument is based on adding the weight of whatever your pulling to your durability. In some cases this is true when moving a weight but not in pulling it...

Thats another point, assuming this rope is not just a toonforce gag for lulz then thats a lot of force thats not on the pokemon because the strain is going through a rope as well....


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With your flawed logic I'm bulletproof since I can easily hold a bullet.
Actually, scientifically what he is saying is very much true.

Your body would have to be durable to pull the continent, that would require an extraordinarily strong physiology.

Although in fiction that very much does not hold much weight, such matters are not really acknowledged by fiction writers.


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