Really? I was was under the impression she was a godess who was on par some of Darkstalkers' strongest characters. My bad, I didn't realize this was a spite match
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Demitri tanked time-space busting and can prance around in one million degree temps without breaking a single bead of sweat. To make things worse, at 80% of his own power, he was capable of absorbing 400,000 light years of cosmic energy and was then capable of easily containing it.
Every character after Demitri is far more powerful than Demitri. Morrigan being the single most powerful. And Jedah is more powerful than Pyron. So the order should be,
1. Demitri (post Pyron-absorbtion)
2. Pyron
3. Jedah
4. Morrigan (fused with Lilith)
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Last edited by Frisky Dingo on Jan 11th, 2012 at 01:00 AM
Well my knowledge of Darkstalkers is a little....iffy. I've heard Jedah is stronger then Morrigan, and that Pyron is stronger then Jedah, etc. I'm not sure what to believe.
And like i previously stated, I thought Ammy was up there with some of the strongest beings from Darkstalkers. Hell, there was a point in my life where i thought she was the most powerful Capcom character. Guess I was wrong. I'm assuming that title would belong to Belial, right? Correct me if i'm wrong.
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It is, but I'm simply basing the tiering off of pure logical conclusions.
Demitri
Even though he absorbed Pyron, it isn't clear how much stronger he's gotten, since Pyron's full power isn't known. Logic steps in when you consider that a B+er like Demtri was able to absorb Pyron in his entirety. If the power of Pyron can be held by a B+ demon, then two B+ers or even an A+ and B+ wouldn't even be enough to scratch an S Class beast like Jedah or Morrigan. Using that logic, we can assume Demitri Empowered Pyron is still weaker than Morrigan or Jedah.
Pyron
Pyron's full power, or even close to it is still unknown. Certain games lead us to believe that Pyron does have Godly powers at his disposal that he has never used or had to use. Like universe merging, multiverse creation and universe wide time manip along with multi dimensional powers as well. However, these facts come from him at full power in a noncanon game[Capcom Fighting Jam(CFJ)]. However, this game does introduce previously unknown facts about Pyron that were not believed by many, until canon sources did reveal that CFJ was telling the truth about Pyron. A perfect example being his size. So there is some evidence that Pyron is very powerful at his highest lvls. But at the other end, in Darkstalkers official canon, logical conclusions lead to Pyron being even weaker than Jedah or Morrigan.
Jedah
Based off what we have, mountains of circumstantial evidence and assumed logic points to Jedah being far stronger than Demitri or Pyron.
Morrigan (fused with Lilith)
Morrigan is out-right stated to be the strongest amongst all the characters in the game. 2nd only to Belial.
I'm pretty sure Belail is not the strongest. Hell, Anita is hinted to be his human equivalent and there are characters like Yorae[Infinity] Dragon from BoF who created an entire multiverese and lesser Gods to rule them. Some how the Yorae Dragon was weakened and impaled with sword designed to kill him, literally called The God Slayer Sword. And he tanked it pretty easily. Then at the end of the game, he simply holds out his arm and undoes all the Gods he's created. I think he's stronger than Belial.
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Last edited by Frisky Dingo on Jan 11th, 2012 at 01:50 AM
From the description of Yorae, that sounds pretty close to the sort of thing that Ammy does. She's created 13 gods and each represent a different thing. She created the known universe and takes the form of a wolf for unknown reasons...
And yet another example of WIS. The God of a multiverse with created beings capable creatin other dimensions is incorrectly summoned by man through a spell that cuts'im in 2 and severely weakens him. That should not be possible.
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You know what I was thinking? Pyron is indeed fully capable of what he did in CFJ in canon. Read all the profiles, what is stated in these bios that is not true in canon? Find one inconsistency.
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Demitri absorbed Pyron in his Mortal Form NOT full size.
Morrigan with Lilith is not higher than Jedah.
That's just Morrigan with 2/3 of her power, when she was at full power she was an S class which is comparable to Jedah but she was still lower since she had no idea how to control her powers.
The Order is (No. 1&2 are on par but I put Demitri higher since beat her in Vampire Saviour):
Again Morrigan fused with Lilith is only 2/3 of her power and she was an S class when at full power; which is still lower than Belial Aensland who is an S+.
Anita is considered equal to Jedah not Belial.
Demitri only absorbed Mortal form Pyron.
True Pyron is stated by canon to be able to grow more than 400, 000 light years which is larger than the Milky Way Galaxy.
Although http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/psx/c/ds3vh.htm
Jedah's soul manipulation is so powerful that he could do that to Pyron.
Belial's is higher since he split an S class Morrigan's soul in to 3.
He still absorbed all of Pyron. Pyron no longer exists. It's like absorbin Goku in his normal state, and sayin he gains none of Goku's SSJ power. Makes no sense.
Yes she is. She was labeled S Class as an infant. Jedah's S Class as a 4000 years old demon. Belail wouldn't apoint a being who could be rivaled by the lesser S Class nobles. She is describe as being nigh-omnipotent, something not said of Jedah by Belail. Morrigan would decimate Jedah. It is even blatantly stated in official books that Morrigan is the strongest of all Darkstalkers.
Your order tier is massively incorrect and Demitri's ending in Savior is not canon, since we know Morrigan's ending is.
Ammy won't beat Demitri.
It is never stated that Morrigan is only at 2/3 of her power at the end of Savior, nor is that stated in any source books. Facts say 1/3 or her power is with Belial, no sources say it was lost at all, so it is safe to assume her power was returned upon Belial's death.
Anita is not considered equal to Jedah, no source says this. She is hinted to be the God of humans as Belial/100% Morrigan is the God of demons. That is why Jedah is weary of her existence.
He still absorbed all of Pyron. Pyron no longer exists. It's like absorbin Goku in his normal state, and sayin he gains none of Goku's SSJ power. Makes no sense.
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Last edited by No End N Site on Jan 17th, 2012 at 09:29 PM
So you're speculating that Demitri can grow up to 400, 000 lightyears? Speculation does not equal facts plus Super Buu absorbed Gotenks yet couldn't(or at least didn't) turn SSJ. Hmmm...
http://www.gamefaqs.com/arcade/5837...kers/faqs/25007
Look under Lilith's profile:
" When Belial died, the sealed off power was supposed to return to it's rightful owner. Once this was complete, the next ruler of Makai was supposed to be born, as Belial foresaw it. But because the part which Belial contained had been lost, Morrigan's power had not returned to 100%. "
Source for Morrigan stated as the strongest Darkstalker?
Source for Morrigan stated as Nigh Omnipotent?????????
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I never stated that Demtiri gained Pyron's abilities, only his lvl of power. How can Buu go SSJ, he's not a Saiyin, but I assure you he had SSJ power, that's why he beat Mystic Gohan.
Point taken about Morri losing 1/3 of her power. Forgot about that.
2nd Panel.
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Last edited by No End N Site on Jan 18th, 2012 at 12:10 AM
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This has just been covered.
When she is at full power, she is not "comparable", she is greatly beyond Jedah and 2nd to Belail. When fused with Lilith she is still beyond Jedah, which explains his inability to attack her directly and must resort to schemes to get her power in his control.
Erroneous, I had the order right the 1st time.
Already been covered
This has also been covered
This topic has been covered, as well. It would also be good to remind you that Pyron's size has nothing to do with his power or powers.
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Last edited by Frisky Dingo on Jan 18th, 2012 at 01:52 AM
So you scream at me for using Demitri's ending becaise it's NON CANON but yet you provide NON CANON source for Morrigan's "Nigh Omnipotence"?
Also I knew you'd use that Graphic file as the source, hell it's even in the link I posted before.
Look just because it says "Special" doesn't mean strongest or most powerful just means special since she was born an S class right?
But just because she was born an S class doesn't mean we should assume she increased to S+ when grown up at 2/3 of her power.
Hell, Jedah's class has never been confirmed to be lowered when weakened after Ozom betrayed him.
And since you like using non canon evidence I'd say Anita is still lower than Belial since Jedah owned her in the manga.
Oh really? The Morrigan who avoids Demitri at all costs is beyond Jedah?
Jedah doesn't want Morrigan's power unless you're using Non canon evidence.
Oh right so I guess Mortal Pyron is a Non corporeal being that is Millions of times Faster Than Light, can pull Planets out of their orbit and wear them as jewellery?
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