There was a thread on ComicVine called "Tommy Vercetti vs Rorschach", and there was a guy called "Matezoide" who said "GTA and it's similar game characters are on Punisher's league", while other characters like Snake, Leon, Fisher would get trashed by Frank . If characters like Claude, Tommy, CJ, Niko, Trevor and Vito Scaletta are really on "Castle's league", they should be above game characters like Sam Fisher, Leon S. Kennedy, Agent 47, Nathan Drake, etc... So if he said that I want to test their skill against someone on same class as other VG Commandos and assassins before putting them against Frank. I wanted to put Claude and Tommy against Snake, Leon or Sam but since I never used MGS2 Raiden, I'm using him on this thread for the first time. This is the fight between the stars from the early 2000's, Raiden(adopted name Jack) the white-haired Liberian child soldier kidnapped and trained by Solidus Snake from MGS2 vs the mute protagonist who swores revenge against Catalina of GTA III Claude and the leader of Vercetti gang Thomas "Tommy" Vercetti from GTA: Vice City.
Round 1: Straight gunfight with explosives in Middle Park(GTA4).
Raiden has a Body Armor, H&K MK23 SOCOM with 70 rounds, AKS-74U with 270 rounds, H&K PSG-1 with 20 rounds, Stinger Missile with 1 missile and 5 grenades. Claude has 100% Body Armor, two Micro-Uzis with 250 rounds, Shotgun from GTA3 with 30 buckshots, Sniper Rifle from GTA3 with 20 rounds, Rocket Launcher from GTA3 with 1 rocket and 8 molotov cocktails. Tommy has 100% Body Armor, Colt Python with 60 rounds,Ingram MAC-10 with 150 rounds and a M16 w/M203(Tony Montana style) with 270 rounds and 4 grenade shells.
Distance: They starts against each other from 150m.
Round 2: Melee fight in the top of Federal Hall from MGS2.
Raiden has his sword that obtained from Olga. Claude has a Baseball Bat and Tommy has a Chainsaw.
Round 3: H2H inside a abandoned warehouse.
Raiden is naked holding his balls . Claude and Tommy are only allowed to use their barehands.
Who wins and why.
NOTE : This is Raiden from Metal Gear Solid 2 not the cyborg one from MGS4 or the even badass from Revengeance.
Since when Raiden was genetically engineered before turning into cyborg? But anyway I completely agrees with your answers . And did you read the Tommy vs Rorschach thread in ComicVine.
My mistake, there's so many twists and turns in MG that I get confused from time to time. He was normal, but his training raised him to such a high level that he was butchering grown men as a 10 year old. And he only got better as her got older. They called him "Jack the Ripper" for a reason.
If anything Comicvine wanks the living shit out of Metal Gear Solid and Resident Evil characters, they're literally on par or at least close to Outskirt Battledome in terms of the sheer stupidity of the community. I remember going to Outskirt Battledome a year ago, owning like 5-6 of their users and they had such a melt down that all they could do is gang troll.
Granted Cass wouldn't beat MGR Raiden but she'd obliterate MGS2 Raiden without so much as breaking a sweat, and some idiot on Comicvine tried to argue otherwise
Last edited by RadZoa on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 10:48 PM
Also, there's nothing superhuman about MGS Humans, most of the feats used on forums, like Ocelot shooting lightning and Snake beating Gray Fox, are out of context horse shit, mostly by idiots on Comicvine and Outskirt Battledome who have little understand of the series and it's context. Hell on of their more deadly characters pre Revengance, Vamp, isn't even a bullet timer and is a glorified aim dodger who routinely gets tagged by sub sonic firearms.
Last edited by RadZoa on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 10:59 PM
Hell no, I knew Matezoide back in the day around 2009-2011 when I was active on Comicvine before the site turned into the cesspit is today. Nice guy but he did wank characters he liked severely, including GTA Characters
Raiden would still stomp the shit out of them, none of these guys are trained except for Nico and even then he's not a match for Raiden. Raiden would beat the crap out of Claude and Tommy or any GTA protoganist.
But MGS characters on Outskirt Battledome and Comicvine are still severely wanked though. Some idiot, the same idiot who's the source for a majority of the MGS bullshit on forums including Ocelot shooting lightning, once tried to argue MGS2 Raiden (not Revengance Raiden) beating Cassandra Cain, needless to say I managed to debunk him in one post but you get the idea.