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Ganondorf vs Demise

I know I said "dorf", but this is referring to all his incarnations.

Who wins this fight?


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Ganon wins due to the ToP. Without it though, he wouldn't stand a chance.

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Ganon wins due to the ToP. Without it though, he wouldn't stand a chance.
Why would Ganon with just 1 Triforce beat someone who was able to match the Goddess Hylia and all her forces?

The dude seemed to be more powerful then her even as a whole.


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Maybe normal Ganon May lose, but Calamity Ganon May be another story...


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Maybe normal Ganon May lose, but Calamity Ganon May be another story...
Calamity Ganon seems powerful and all, but idk if he's on the level of a Triforce-infused Ganon.


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Hylia didn't have the Triforce, you goon. She had to become human to be able to use it against Demise.

Ganon wins. He has better feats _and_ a piece of the Triforce.


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Pre-Triforce of Power Ganondorf stomps Demise.

Demise has no feats compared to Ganondorf. Demise has 0 god kills under his belt; Ganondorf kills 2 before he gets the ToP in OoT.

Demise can't fly; Ganondorf can.

Demise gets obliterated on his first encounter with the Master Sword; Ganondorf persists past his encounters with it.

Demise fails to get the Triforce in any capacity; Ganondorf succeeds more than once to obtain/assemble it.

Ganondorf is superior to Demise in every single metric.


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Pre-Triforce of Power Ganondorf stomps Demise.

Demise has no feats compared to Ganondorf. Demise has 0 god kills under his belt; Ganondorf kills 2 before he gets the ToP in OoT.

Demise can't fly; Ganondorf can.

Demise gets obliterated on his first encounter with the Master Sword; Ganondorf persists past his encounters with it.

Demise fails to get the Triforce in any capacity; Ganondorf succeeds more than once to obtain/assemble it.

Ganondorf is superior to Demise in every single metric.
You are an imbecile. smile


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You are an imbecile. smile



Do you have an argument or are you going to just cry?


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Do you have an argument or are you going to just cry?
Now now, I wouldnít be calling you an imbecile if I didnít have my own interpretation of things! big grin


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Cease the stalling and post your position and evidence.


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Cease the stalling and post your position and evidence.
Since you obviously want to hear it, Iíll be happy to format one! big grin


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Good luck.


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Pre-Triforce of Power Ganondorf stomps Demise.

Demise has no feats compared to Ganondorf. Demise has 0 god kills under his belt; Ganondorf kills 2 before he gets the ToP in OoT.

Demise can't fly; Ganondorf can.

Demise gets obliterated on his first encounter with the Master Sword; Ganondorf persists past his encounters with it.

Demise fails to get the Triforce in any capacity; Ganondorf succeeds more than once to obtain/assemble it.

Ganondorf is superior to Demise in every single metric.
1. Quick question, why do you think that Demise canít also fly? laughing

Just because we havenít seen him before, doesnít mean he isnít capable of it.

2. Just because Demise hasnít gotten the Triforce before, doesnít mean he isnít capable of it.

3. I believe Hylia is considered a god, and I think Demise defeated her. I donít see how that counts Demiseís god count as a zero.

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Good luck.
Thank you! big grin

I may lose this debate, as I donít know as much about Skyward Sword, so little knowledge of Demise.

But Iíll do the best of my ability. wink


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1. Quick question, why do you think that Demise canít also fly? laughing


Demise is never shown the ability to fly in his reborn form. If you are going to claim that he can fly, then the burden of proof is upon you to prove it. Also, Hylia sent Skyloft into the sky because she knew that Demise couldn't reach it there, obviously.

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2. Just because Demise hasnít gotten the Triforce before, doesnít mean he isnít capable of it.


He failed because he lacked the power and the cunning to obtain even a single piece before he was destroyed. He was destroyed by the first human who ever challenged him in battle.

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3. I believe Hylia is considered a god, and I think Demise defeated her. I donít see how that counts Demiseís god count as a zero.


Hylia sealed Demise away and then used her power to keep him sealed. At best, you can call this a stalemate, or a victory for Hylia. Ganondorf killed both the Great Deku Tree and Lord Jabu-Jabu passively with death curses before he even got the Triforce of Power. He didn't even have to try.

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Demise is never shown the ability to fly in his reborn form. If you are going to claim that he can fly, then the burden of proof is upon you to prove it. Also, Hylia sent Skyloft into the sky because she knew that Demise couldn't reach it there, obviously.



He failed because he lacked the power and the cunning to obtain even a single piece before he was destroyed. He was destroyed by the first human who ever challenged him in battle.

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Hylia sealed Demise away and then used her power to keep him sealed. At best, you can call this a stalemate, or a victory for Hylia. Ganondorf killed both the Great Deku Tree and Lord Jabu-Jabu passively with death curses before he even got the Triforce of Power. He didn't even have to try.

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1. That is a good point, but when you state that Ganondorf can fly... Are you sure it isnít hover?

2. From what I have heard, Link was in some sort of ďgod formĒ when fighting Demise. But I may be wrong...

3. Hylia died due to Demise, and Demise was sealed away due to Hylia. So, it basically was a stalemate. Which means Hylia=Demise. So you think Gananondorf>Hylia now?


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1. That is a good point, but when you state that Ganondorf can fly... Are you sure it isnít hover?

2. From what I have heard, Link was in some sort of ďgod formĒ when fighting Demise. But I may be wrong...

3. Hylia died due to Demise, and Demise was sealed away due to Hylia. So, it basically was a stalemate. Which means Hylia=Demise. So you think Gananondorf>Hylia now?
Sorry if Iím doing badly, LoZ isnít my strongpoint! laughing


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1. That is a good point, but when you state that Ganondorf can fly... Are you sure it isnít hover?


Hovering is just flying in place. Ganondorf can move levitating/hovering. Straight DBZ stuff here.

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2. From what I have heard, Link was in some sort of ďgod formĒ when fighting Demise. But I may be wrong...


Skyward Sword Link is a medium strength Link when compared to all of them that have existed (not counting Triforce). The only time any Link has taken a god form is the Hero of Time using the Fierce Deity Mask.

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3. Hylia died due to Demise, and Demise was sealed away due to Hylia. So, it basically was a stalemate. Which means Hylia=Demise. So you think Gananondorf>Hylia now?


Hylia wasn't killed by Demise; she voluntarily gave up her godhood so that she would be able to use the Triforce (gods aren't able to use the Triforce).

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Ganondorf would crush Hylia. Hylia is weaker in combat than Skyward Sword Link. Skyward Sword Link is weaker than the Hero of Time, who was Ganondorf's first opponent. Ganondorf loses to HoT in one timeline and 'allegedly' defeats him in another, meaning they are close to evenly matched. Therefore, Ganondorf is several factors stronger than Hylia in combat, and certainly has more powers than she does in sorcery.


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Demise is never shown the ability to fly in his reborn form. If you are going to claim that he can fly, then the burden of proof is upon you to prove it. Also, Hylia sent Skyloft into the sky because she knew that Demise couldn't reach it there, obviously.



He failed because he lacked the power and the cunning to obtain even a single piece before he was destroyed. He was destroyed by the first human who ever challenged him in battle.

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Hylia sealed Demise away and then used her power to keep him sealed. At best, you can call this a stalemate, or a victory for Hylia. Ganondorf killed both the Great Deku Tree and Lord Jabu-Jabu passively with death curses before he even got the Triforce of Power. He didn't even have to try.

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@Comparing the great Deku Tree and Jabu-Jabu to ****ing HYLIA. You are laughably ignorant.

Demise has better feats due to the fact that he stood against Hylia, who was a real bonafide god, rather then the... beings known as the Great Deku Tree (who is not capable of creation, and not a god in any sense of the word), and... c'mon man, Jabu-Jabu? Are we actually serious right now? You expect us to take you seriously by claiming he's a god, and if he is, comparable to Hylia?

Link had the Master Sword when he fought Ganon, true, but one could argue that it was at the peak of it's power as of when Link fought Demise, it seems like a big deal.


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